Thinking of Buying a boat any advice re. costs useful
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Thinking of Buying a boat any advice re. costs useful
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thinking of buying a motor cruiser sports boat, anyone give me an ideas on running costs. Already have cost of keeping it in water at jetty etc, but more interested in running costs and maintenance etc.. Looking at around 30FT and pref. an oil burner engine(s)
thanks in advance
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thinking of buying a motor cruiser sports boat, anyone give me an ideas on running costs. Already have cost of keeping it in water at jetty etc, but more interested in running costs and maintenance etc.. Looking at around 30FT and pref. an oil burner engine(s)
thanks in advance
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30 ft is a BIG boat! We got a 24ft cranchi with a 5.7 litre V8 engine and it hurts the juice. When you throttle down in these bad boys you can do some serious wallet damage, baring in mind a full tank of fuel is nigh on 150 quid. Like everything its what your doing with it, if your cruising its not too bad if ur motoring its hell on earth. Just need to find a nice spot drop anchor and crack the bubbly!
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ive always found these to very helpful and fair
http://www.essexboatyards.com/stockl...gory.php/SPORT
http://www.essexboatyards.com/stockl...gory.php/SPORT
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Originally Posted by wakeboardar
ive always found these to very helpful and fair
http://www.essexboatyards.com/stockl...gory.php/SPORT
http://www.essexboatyards.com/stockl...gory.php/SPORT
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As has been said, 30 foot is BIG!!
The LARSON here has a 4.3 Volvo V6 Petrol Engine and it drinks the fuel faster than the Scooby!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/08...Picture153.jpg
Pete
The LARSON here has a 4.3 Volvo V6 Petrol Engine and it drinks the fuel faster than the Scooby!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/08...Picture153.jpg
Pete
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Buy a diesel, cheap fuel at the mo even though that will be changing. Safer as well.
Sold ours last year with Essex boat Yards. They are the main power boat dealer and have loads of boats in stock.
Costs a fortune to own, takes up all of your spare time, but you will have a great time.
We went to Southampton at the weekend and went on an HTM SR24
75MPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NEVER FELT SUCH EXILERATION BEFORE!
Good luck with it and make sure you get a survey done.
Sold ours last year with Essex boat Yards. They are the main power boat dealer and have loads of boats in stock.
Costs a fortune to own, takes up all of your spare time, but you will have a great time.
We went to Southampton at the weekend and went on an HTM SR24
75MPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NEVER FELT SUCH EXILERATION BEFORE!
Good luck with it and make sure you get a survey done.
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As has been said, 30 foot is BIG!!
The LARSON here has a 4.3 Volvo V6 Petrol Engine and it drinks the fuel faster than the Scooby!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/08...Picture153.jpg
Pete
The LARSON here has a 4.3 Volvo V6 Petrol Engine and it drinks the fuel faster than the Scooby!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/08...Picture153.jpg
Pete
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My 18 foot Shetland does very well, will manage 20-25 knots and is ideal for a bit of inshore fishing.
Only gets spoiled by the pratts with their enormous powerboats who always have to pass very close when I am fishing on the drift to show off that they can cruise at 40 knots and nearly knock us over with their wash. Its really not very difficult to steer away to minimise the disturbance.
Les
Only gets spoiled by the pratts with their enormous powerboats who always have to pass very close when I am fishing on the drift to show off that they can cruise at 40 knots and nearly knock us over with their wash. Its really not very difficult to steer away to minimise the disturbance.
Les
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My Dad bought a Regal 1800 lsr from america at the time when exchange rate was good for us last year and saved a massive wegde of doe. But as we found out the trailers they use are illegal in most of europe and outside. Americain ebay is the best place for buying boats. www.ebay.com
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The best bowrider to have which is the quickest of most boats is the Regal ( approx 58 mph top speed from a 4.3 volvo carb engine ) and is the best handeling ( has fast track hull ) also is very quick up to the plain.
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if you are looking at 30ft diesel im presuming you are looking at a cruiser and quite possibly inland / light coastal.
My family have had a mixture of boats for about 15 years.
Started with a fairline with twin petrol v6's, that lasted one season as it cost 4k in fuel !!!!, exchanged for the same boat wih twin 6 cyclinder diesels, the boat was used more in fuel was in the hundreds.
the noise level was increased but the boat was actually easier to handle, but of course considrby slower.
if you are looking at keeping the boat in a inland marina you need to look at a miniumum of craning the boat out every other year to steam clean the hull off and re-do the anti foul replace props ect.ask your boat yard how much they charge, the re-anti fouling is easy enough to do yourself, we used to keep our boats on our own land with a boat house summer house and had to get a mobile crane in to lift it out, this seem excessive but was actually cheaper than using the loacl boatyard.
crime, boats are so easy to break into we had this happen twice (stereo alcohol stolen), and the amount thatget set adrift is alarming, get an alarm fitted, normal 12v house alarms works well and are very cheap, figure out a way of chaing the boat as well as using ropes.
boat certificates.
a few years back they introduced a mot type test for private boats. this caused a lot of older boats pre 1990 to need major overhauls, lots of people didnt bother and sold up be wary there is still a lot of boats for sale without this certificate ad could require a heap of cash replacing gas heating cookers ect to bring them up to spec.
and as other people have said boats can be very expensive, but being able to use red diesel inland is a big bobus over petrols variants.
if you are looking inland crusing look at Broom, out of all th boats we had this was the best followed by fairline, the broom my dad actually made money on when he sold it 2 years ago to buy a big motorhome.
be wary of using a deep v hull (ie performance boat) with a single engine inland they are very difficult to handle and you will endup burrying it into a lock wall, if you must have this dsign ensure you get twin engines and learn how to steer the boat on the throttle to ensure you dont destroy it by oversteering.
http://www.broomboats.com/flash/homepage.htm
the 29st is a great inland cruiser.
if you are looking 2nd hand you really should budget at least 1k a foot to not get a tub, the alternative is to get an older model which you modernise.
fairline mirage 29, targa 27/33, sun fury 26, princess 32 newer 286, ocean 30 (v.old) royal storebro (classic),
The best advice I can give is to go the waterway you are going to use the boat on and talk to boat users, they are the friendliest bunch of people you are ever likely to meet and get advice on the boats you can use on the water due to depth width height restictions. they can also tell you about licenses ect.
you wouldnt be the first or the last to buy a boat transport it to your local waterway and not be able to get out of the marina due to the foot bridge or only able to use 8 miles of river due to not being able to get into the lock.
My family have had a mixture of boats for about 15 years.
Started with a fairline with twin petrol v6's, that lasted one season as it cost 4k in fuel !!!!, exchanged for the same boat wih twin 6 cyclinder diesels, the boat was used more in fuel was in the hundreds.
the noise level was increased but the boat was actually easier to handle, but of course considrby slower.
if you are looking at keeping the boat in a inland marina you need to look at a miniumum of craning the boat out every other year to steam clean the hull off and re-do the anti foul replace props ect.ask your boat yard how much they charge, the re-anti fouling is easy enough to do yourself, we used to keep our boats on our own land with a boat house summer house and had to get a mobile crane in to lift it out, this seem excessive but was actually cheaper than using the loacl boatyard.
crime, boats are so easy to break into we had this happen twice (stereo alcohol stolen), and the amount thatget set adrift is alarming, get an alarm fitted, normal 12v house alarms works well and are very cheap, figure out a way of chaing the boat as well as using ropes.
boat certificates.
a few years back they introduced a mot type test for private boats. this caused a lot of older boats pre 1990 to need major overhauls, lots of people didnt bother and sold up be wary there is still a lot of boats for sale without this certificate ad could require a heap of cash replacing gas heating cookers ect to bring them up to spec.
and as other people have said boats can be very expensive, but being able to use red diesel inland is a big bobus over petrols variants.
if you are looking inland crusing look at Broom, out of all th boats we had this was the best followed by fairline, the broom my dad actually made money on when he sold it 2 years ago to buy a big motorhome.
be wary of using a deep v hull (ie performance boat) with a single engine inland they are very difficult to handle and you will endup burrying it into a lock wall, if you must have this dsign ensure you get twin engines and learn how to steer the boat on the throttle to ensure you dont destroy it by oversteering.
http://www.broomboats.com/flash/homepage.htm
the 29st is a great inland cruiser.
if you are looking 2nd hand you really should budget at least 1k a foot to not get a tub, the alternative is to get an older model which you modernise.
fairline mirage 29, targa 27/33, sun fury 26, princess 32 newer 286, ocean 30 (v.old) royal storebro (classic),
The best advice I can give is to go the waterway you are going to use the boat on and talk to boat users, they are the friendliest bunch of people you are ever likely to meet and get advice on the boats you can use on the water due to depth width height restictions. they can also tell you about licenses ect.
you wouldnt be the first or the last to buy a boat transport it to your local waterway and not be able to get out of the marina due to the foot bridge or only able to use 8 miles of river due to not being able to get into the lock.
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[QUOTE=pbee]if you are looking at 30ft diesel im presuming you are looking at a cruiser and quite possibly inland / light coastal.
thanks very much for this advice, very interesting. Alot to digest. I have alot of research to do i think..
cheers again
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thanks very much for this advice, very interesting. Alot to digest. I have alot of research to do i think..
cheers again
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Originally Posted by Nixon
http://www.essexboatyards.com/stockl...Prestancia-244
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Originally Posted by Nixon
Budget a fair bit for servicing as well though - and make sure the boat's been looked after, as boat engine parts certainly aren't any cheaper than car parts. The starter motor I sold today for example, was 600 odd quid, and that was for a smallish diesel.
Sailing boats are perhaps cheaper - although if you want to be lazy on the power and the sailing front, look at: http://www.wally.com/default.asp?bflash=1 for inspiration.
Don't look at the prices though, as they're a bit steep but they are unbelievable boats
I like their idea of a 'dinghy' though - 33 foot powerboat with a 200hp inboard Nice
That 118 foot one - 15000hp, and 'cruises' at 60 knots. Not bad by my standards
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Nixon - I've got one of those
Mines a 2001 - basically the same but withgout the orange bits.
I had a GTX Jet Ski, then a Sportster, but the Speedster is excellent - right compromise between size & power
Mines a 2001 - basically the same but withgout the orange bits.
I had a GTX Jet Ski, then a Sportster, but the Speedster is excellent - right compromise between size & power
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