IN THE STICKS

If your bored have a look at this site , it makes you realise just what happened at Chernobyl, with pictures of how it is today. Click on the different chapters at the bottom of the page to scroll throughthe different pictures.

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html

Very sad stuff

OllyK

She has been riding there for a good while, first saw the site a year or more ago, interesting to see how it changes, or not!

RedFive

Especially as it turned out to be fake...

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IN THE STICKS

Fake , really? had me fooled I must say

hawkthescoobslayer

words escape me

hawkthescoobslayer

fake your kidding really?????????

paul-s

have seen this before, but dont understand why it could be a fake

OllyK

It is "fake" because she did the journey in a car with her husband and not on a motorcycle. That "bit" was for poetic effect. It's hardly a big deal. The pictures etc are all real enough:
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/w...hernobyl_trip/

Freak

Ive been meaning to go visit there for a while....may actually get round to it sometime this year

I think the hoax accusations were to do with the fact that she had free unrestricted access to the place with no escort or something......which doesnt happen.

IN THE STICKS

I see , I thought you were going to say the whole thing was filmed in Milton Keynes

OllyK

Nah - people got uppety because she wrote a story about chernobyl and wrapped it up in a bit of romanticism with bike riding, rather than it being absolute fact all the way through. Some people huh?

hawkthescoobslayer

thanks for the link to the site interesting reading

Leslie

Regardless how she travelled, the pictures should be compulsorily shown to all those organisations who endanger people by using the risk strategy. It just is not worth it.

Les

SirFozzalot

Fascinating pictures.

Thanks for the link!

EddScott

Thats something I'd probably enjoy doing. Not for fun but more of something you really should do in your lifetime. Probably end up in tears all the time

Much rather do that than sit on a beach for 2 weeks!!

Freak

Exactly why I intend to go.....

pvtbanner

Does anybody else think its scary that the gov'ment is investigating having loads more Nuclear Powerstations?
Why cant we just stick loads of windmills everywhere?
Why is it sooo expensive for solar panels? Why aren't they compulsory on new house builds?
etc etc preach preach blah blah blah

Freak

chernobyl was caused by human error.........
I dont think its scary at all the uk having more of them.

OllyK

Nope it's a bloody good idea, about the only realistic solution we have, especially if the government are to meet CO2 reduction targets. France is almost all nuclear power!
Becuase they are a bloody eyesore, a threat to birds and generally are ineffective in comparitive terms.
Because it's a complex manufacturing process
Becuase they cost more to manufacture economically and environmentally than they will recover, they are, for the most part, a waste of space.

SJ_Skyline

Well said Olly!

SiPie

Effectiveness all depends on location.....

How many birds are killed by, cars, buses, planes etc etc etc etc etc etc

OllyK

Fine - you stick them in your back garden. Personally I'd rather have a Nuclear Power plant within 10 miles of me, hidden away in a valley than see the hills in the peak district covered in bloody great white windmills. Some of the windiest places are also the most picturesque.

Cool - as if we aren't killing enough, lets add to the problem

EddScott

Really don't see what the fuss is about with windfarms. West Wales now has the largest windfarm in the UK and to me its a very good idea. Much rather a windfarm than a nuclear powerstation in my neighbourhood.

Try living within 15 miles of 2 oil refineries. Wind and rain in the right direction and everything gets a nice greasy covering. Not to mention the great idea the local council have ahd to agree to an onshore LNG processing plant. Spooky how the US states an LNG plant must be so many miles offshore.

I know its not quite the same but the point is I'd rather endanger a few birds than endanger entire populations with polluting energy sources.

/edit - when the oil refinery blew up years ago it shattered windows along the sea front 4 miles away.

OllyK

Well you keep the windfarms in Wales then, I'll take the nuke!

Yes oil / coal power is messy, gas is a bit better. Yes there are waste issues with nuclear as well, but they are not as atmospheric as oil / coal / gas and for the amount of land required, they are a damn sight more efficient than other methods.

Fixel

Cool pictures. Very eerie.

pvtbanner

If the the manufacturing costs of solar panels are so expensive why is it on a recent trip to cyprus every sodding house had one on top?
If it was made compulsory for solar panels surely the manufacturing process would evolve a hell of a lot quicker. Its the same for everything that reaches critical mass - the original is improved considerably over a shorter period of time.
You mentioned that it only happened because of human error. Thats the bloody point isn't it? We will be running them and we are completely 100% fallable.

OllyK

Depends if you are on about electro cells or water heating cells. The latter are basically black pipe that have water pupmed through. This warms the water (black absorbs heat) and you have warm water. That would be great for the 3 days a year we get enough sun for it to be any use. Cyprus is a rather different story.

Iwan

You can't really compare living near a nuclear power station to living near a coal fired power station, or an oil refinery etc. Modern nuclear power stations don't emit anything except hot water outflow and electricity. Background radiation around a nuclear power station is generally less than in an area like Cornwall where the granite rocks seep naturally occurring radium gas.

If you walk round a modern nuclear power station it's not noisy, smelly or dirty - it's more like a cleanroom type factory where microchips are made. Some nuclear power stations used to do guided tours so you can go and have a look round, not sure if they still do now though with recent worries over terrorism.

I've stood on the cover over the reactor core at a magnox fission reactor (not the most modern design either), on top of the little hatches where they insert/remove fuel rods by cranes - and you'd be hard pushed to guess what was underneath if you didn't know. Aside from being pleasantly warm (from heat not radiation) there's no other noises or sensations.

I'd have no problems working at one or living near one. I don't know the exact numbers but you'd need an absolutely massive number of wind turbines to generate the same amount of power as one fission reactor. Being quite honest, i'd rather just have a few well built modern reactors than loads of wind farms.

EddScott

Anyone seen the program on how it happened?

IIRC rather than shut the reactor down they were told to run at as slowly as possible as an experiment to see how much energy it would produce at its slowest operating limits. The reactor didn't want to slow down and started to heat up too quickly. They then tried to stop it altogether but by then it was too late.

Was on the same program as 3 Mile Island. Day1 - No No No problem, keep taking your children to school. Day 4 - May want to pack a few essentials Miss, we've decided to evacuate. Day 5 - actually its OK and whats more we've dared the President to touch the reactor and make everyone feel better.