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Old 14 June 2005, 09:55 PM
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Exclamation Anyone unplug the TV in a thunder storm?

Had a bad one here the other night... unplugged the TV cos I've always heard that it's the safest thing to do.... something to do with the aerial acting as a lightining conductor... and some vague story about an exploding TV as a result!

But is just a load of old tosh?
Old 14 June 2005, 10:00 PM
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My Mum and Dad always did it when I was a kid. Dunno if they still do it cos I'm a big girl now and left home years ago.

Never heard of it happening though and I don't bother....
Old 14 June 2005, 10:02 PM
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Same here... mum & dad used to do it when i was a kid.

I never bother.

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Old 14 June 2005, 10:05 PM
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I feel so much safer with cable....
Old 14 June 2005, 10:05 PM
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If you have an outside aerial, then it is indeed a lightning conductor, and a lightning strike would reduce parts of your telly to soot.

Sod's law, however, says lightning would strike at the moment you're grabbing the aerial lead to pull it out
Old 14 June 2005, 10:08 PM
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As the TV aerial is the highest bit of your house and made of metal it is quite a good lightning conductor. That said the probability of it getting hit is fairly low. It could make the TV catch fire / explode though I'd have thought they would have some sort of protection on them. So yeah not a bad idea to unplug it.

As an aside its also not a good idea to be on a corded phone during a thunder storm, if the line gets hit you can get electrocuted. Cordless are okay. A colleague's telephone line got struck by lightening, blew up a modem (in the days before ADSL ) and trashed the motherboard in his PC. He brought the modem into work and we took it to bits, few charred components inside That had lightening protection but still managed to jump the gap and feed down the serial port into the PC.
Old 14 June 2005, 10:15 PM
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I always unplug TV if thunderstorms are forecast also disconnect aerial and unplug Hi-Fi and computers - reason had a lightening strike once which took out the TV, video ( melted power supplies in each ) and Hi- Fi Amplifiers



you have been warned
Old 14 June 2005, 10:21 PM
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As an aside its also not a good idea to be on a corded phone during a thunder storm, if the line gets hit you can get electrocuted. Cordless are okay. A colleague's telephone line got struck by lightening, blew up a modem (in the days before ADSL ) and trashed the motherboard in his PC. He brought the modem into work and we took it to bits, few charred components inside That had lightening protection but still managed to jump the gap and feed down the serial port into the PC.
Oh yes, a good storm is good for business at work
Old 14 June 2005, 10:22 PM
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Blimey!

I'd say if you were unlucky enough to have your house hit by lightning, then it was lucky that a few electronics was all it took out!
Old 14 June 2005, 10:23 PM
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Parents unplug the aerial - I don't. Mind you, I have cable

I remember seeing a house near my folks that had been struck by lightning in the paper once - the damage to the house was such that the TV was probably the last of the owners worries

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Old 14 June 2005, 10:28 PM
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So there is some truth in it then.....

Scary if it happened while you were away for the weekend.....

and didn't unplug!

Plums....
Old 14 June 2005, 10:28 PM
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Leave it plugged in. Lightning + house insurance = new TV
Old 14 June 2005, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
If you have an outside aerial, then it is indeed a lightning conductor, and a lightning strike would reduce parts of your telly to soot.

Sod's law, however, says lightning would strike at the moment you're grabbing the aerial lead to pull it out
LOL @ Andy...

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Old 14 June 2005, 11:43 PM
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If the thunder storm is near yes unplug arial lead

Then go out in garden to watch the storm until it rains and then in the door way

Love thunder storms
Old 14 June 2005, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
I think it's a bit like not walking near Swans or Canada Geese as they could break your arm........everyones heard of it but no-ones ever seen it happen
My bro-in-law is a vet. One day one of the guys from USPCA brought a swan in. Opened the box, feking thing nailed him on the arm with its beak and broke his radius. Unfortunately I couldn't help him cos I was pissing myself laughing, thinking of my mum telling William the Conquerer "You'll have someones eye out with that"

Having dealt with the after effects of a direct hit on a stone built house by lightning, you probably don't want to worry about the TV. Worry about the important stuff, like the fact the roof is on fire
Old 15 June 2005, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
Having dealt with the after effects of a direct hit on a stone built house by lightning, you probably don't want to worry about the TV. Worry about the important stuff, like the fact the roof is on fire
LMAO!!!
Old 15 June 2005, 08:38 AM
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has it occurred to anyone that if you unplug the aerial then its just gonna sit on the carpet and still **** your house up (carpet etc) if you get hit by lightning. When you carpet catches alight, i think the tv will be screwed anyway!
Old 15 June 2005, 08:40 AM
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No; the reason lightning strikes the aerial at all is that there's a path to Earth down the UHF lead, through your TV and down through its mains cable. If you unplug the aerial, or the mains plug, that route no longer exists.

Lightning always takes the path of least resistance. If you unplug your TV, it'll fry next door's instead
Old 15 June 2005, 08:44 AM
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You don't even need a direct strike, EMP from a close one or even electron flow through your aerial due to the the proximity of a charged cloud will do it!

Les
Old 15 June 2005, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
No; the reason lightning strikes the aerial at all is that there's a path to Earth down the UHF lead, through your TV and down through its mains cable. If you unplug the aerial, or the mains plug, that route no longer exists.

Lightning always takes the path of least resistance. If you unplug your TV, it'll fry next door's instead
lightning jumps from clouds to the ground, do you really think that its gonna worry about the final end of a connected uhf lead, it'll just go down the uhf lead and jump at the bottom to ground.
Old 15 June 2005, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Hanslow
Leave it plugged in. Lightning + house insurance = new TV
Leave it plugged in. Lightning + house insurance = new HOUSE

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Old 15 June 2005, 09:20 AM
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it knackered my grandmas phone once, the people a few houses down lost there tv.
Old 15 June 2005, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by suprabeast
lightning jumps from clouds to the ground, do you really think that its gonna worry about the final end of a connected uhf lead, it'll just go down the uhf lead and jump at the bottom to ground.
Only if there are no other 'feelers' that give a better path of least resistance. Which is improbable when there are other houses around.

Lightning doesn't decide what its going to hit before it leaves the cloud, it does it during the way down, and chooses a feeler at the very last moment. There is a fantastic pic of a guy being photographed near a tree during a lightning strike. it didn't strike him, but you can clearly see the feeler coming from his head Lucky guy indeed.
Old 15 June 2005, 10:16 AM
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You are still not safe with cable If lightning strikes the cabinet which has been known to happen it will still fry your tv
Old 15 June 2005, 06:13 PM
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Having been in a house when the tv aerial was struck I can verify that it didn't make any difference whether things were plugged in or not. Basically for the few seconds that the lightning took to whizz its way round the house (witnessed by us as blue electrical snakes shooting out of the power points and aerial sockets and round the walls) the entire structure was turned into a huge electro-magnet and things which weren't even plugged in still suffered internal meltdown!

We were lucky, only lost a few electrical goods, the house which got hit by the other half of the fork had most of the roof blown away
Old 15 June 2005, 06:32 PM
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If anyone has ever told you that lightning doesn't strike the same place twice they were lying! My house has been struck twice, the first time was quite a biggy, every single thing in the house that was plugged in was destroyed except the PC as it was plugged into a surge protector which worked amazingly well. The lightning woke me up as it arced across the front of the house, i have very heavy thick curtains in the bedroom and the light was still bright enough that i had spots in my eyes for about 2 days!

The second time i had surge protectors on the stereo, tv, sky, etc. and everything survived, but i don't think it was anywhere as powerful a strike.

Moral of the story, either unplug or fit protectors.
Old 15 June 2005, 06:42 PM
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When I was on holiday at my sisters in France a few years ago, her wee village was hit by lightning. Seemingly it was the phone lines that were hit. Her dial-up modem, laptop and fax machine were all screwed. She was out discussing the insurance claim with the neighbours the next day and by then it was common knowledge that pretty much anything plugged into the phone lines for half the village had been fried.
Old 15 June 2005, 07:32 PM
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About 15 years a go we had one of the first sky systems, a huge dish fitted on our flat roof (still there now) about 1.5 metres across. after about 2 years it was struck by lightning and blew the box up. Our insurance company had to send an assesor out to check everything over, I think they had to pay out about 2k to replace the box and dish although they did try and wriggle out of it!

So yes it can happen, but the only person I know who unplugs there Tv is my grandad, although he also pulls the plug out for the TV at night and always switchs all the plug sockets off to "stop all the electric falling out of them"
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...............no but i got shocked by an electric fence today!!


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