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Old 12 June 2005, 09:21 PM
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Hi,

Was supposed to be going to le mans on Wednesday, been looking forward too it for ages!! But my plans have been scuppered this weekend by breaking my friggin collar bone

Has anyone else done this before?? It bloody hurts now but will that disappear soon? I've got an appointment tomorrow so guess I'll find out more then.

Any scoobynet advice on broken bones would be greatly received!!

Old 12 June 2005, 09:24 PM
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My nan broke hers many many moons ago and sorry to say m8 it never healed properly. Make sure you take the doctor's advice (even if it means missing your meeting)
Old 12 June 2005, 09:27 PM
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It's the easiest bone to break isn't it?
Old 12 June 2005, 09:29 PM
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Crikey it looks like it should be sticking out your shoulder
Old 12 June 2005, 09:32 PM
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Its not a bad one to break.
I have broken both of mine (seperate times).

6 weeks and its all done, unline a lower limb break 3months.

Hopfully it wont be your main hand.

Within a month it should be getting back to normal but take it easy for a while after the 6 months.

Look on the bright side, it heals stronger.

Scott
Old 12 June 2005, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by scott8629
Its not a bad one to break.
I have broken both of mine (seperate times).

6 weeks and its all done, unline a lower limb break 3months.

Hopfully it wont be your main hand.

Within a month it should be getting back to normal but take it easy for a while after the 6 months.

Look on the bright side, it heals stronger.

Scott
Crikey!! I thought I was unlucky I'm not planning on getting a matching pair

I've still got my good hand thankfully, it'll be a mouse hand for the next few weeks I'm sure!!

Any idea how long I'll be off work for??? ......also any tips for getting changed??? Seems like an impossible task and I'm sure I'll start to smell soon!!

+Doc+ You can see a lump where it's sticking out!! nothing too bad though.
Old 12 June 2005, 09:48 PM
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Just go carefull when getting changed .
Try to keep your broken side out of clothes (shirts etc), makes it much easier even though it looks crap. I a few weeks you should be able to get tour arm into jumpers.

Getting a bath/shower is simple, no cast, just a sling strip off and jump in. Wash with your good hand, you will soon get the hang of it.

Me unlucky yes!
1 Leg
2 Collar bones
1 Wrist
Nose
1 Arm

Scott
Old 12 June 2005, 09:58 PM
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I broke mine in a cycle race crash and it felt like a bad bruise.
Not as bad a break as you've got there.
It was the muscle spams that were the worst aspect for the first two weeks. The muscles were having to support the shoulder instead of the bone and just cramped up very regularly.
I think the 6 months comment is a bit pessimistic - I was back racing after 2 months but the break felt a bit "icy" and sore for some months after.
Get some advice from a physio about getting the shoulder and arm mobile asap.

Work-wise - it depends on what you do, but at least 3 weeks you will be preety immobile. Again physio work will speed you return to work (if you want to )

Nick
Old 12 June 2005, 10:03 PM
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I have a Sublimated Acromio Clavicular joint [sp?] which basically means that 1 end of my collar bone is not attached to my shoulder. Never heals & makes me look odd in swimming pools

Rock on Tommy


Watch out for neck pains bought about by compensating for the pain in your shoulder area.
Old 12 June 2005, 10:19 PM
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Scott,

You poor b@st@rd...............
I would ask how, but I get the impression beer will be involved somewhere in the story.
If I can do anything for you call me ok.
Old 12 June 2005, 10:40 PM
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Son just broke his a couple of weeks ago by failing to bunnyhop something and colliding with a wall.

He's been told to keep his hand on his hip for as long as possible, so that it heals correctly, but I couldn't guarantee if that applies to your break too.

I'd say his pain went after a couple of days. Careful walking round in crowded shopping centres though!
Old 12 June 2005, 10:44 PM
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It's the easiest bone to break isn't it?
It requires very little pressure to break it and I was taugh early doors in martial arts to come down onto in with an axe like motion if you are involved in a 'life or death' situation as your attack is unlikely to continue to fight effectively when its broken and you need to little more than make a clean hit.

Like the image King RA - good break that
Old 13 June 2005, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Bottomfeeder
Scott,

You poor b@st@rd...............
I would ask how, but I get the impression beer will be involved somewhere in the story.
If I can do anything for you call me ok.
All those broken bones happend at different occasions!

I did ask the Dr if I had brittle bones' but he said not.

I broke my first coller bone when I was about 10 by falling off a hight tree rope swing.
Second collar bone and wrist went falling off my push bike
Nose broke jumping out of a tree and headbutting my knees
Leg was a stress fracture that I did not know I had developing into a full break when wrestling with my mates pissed!

Scott
Old 13 June 2005, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by scott8629
All those broken bones happend at different occasions!

I did ask the Dr if I had brittle bones' but he said not.

I broke my first coller bone when I was about 10 by falling off a hight tree rope swing.
Second collar bone and wrist went falling off my push bike
Nose broke jumping out of a tree and headbutting my knees
Leg was a stress fracture that I did not know I had developing into a full break when wrestling with my mates pissed!

Scott


Sorry chap the post was directed at King RA
Old 13 June 2005, 07:55 AM
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Blimey!!
I didn't realise it was that bad! I cn entirely understand why you can't come with us
I'll call you later to sort stuff out.
Le Mans 2006, everyone is staying in the weekend before!
Old 13 June 2005, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by paul_davies
Blimey!!
I didn't realise it was that bad! I cn entirely understand why you can't come with us
I'll call you later to sort stuff out.
Le Mans 2006, everyone is staying in the weekend before!
I know his driving style is a little odd, but did you have to that to him in order he didn't drive to Le Mans ?
Old 13 June 2005, 08:28 AM
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Don't miss LeMans for that.
Unless you're planning to swing over there on monkey bars I would have thought a heavily sedated weekend in the sunshine is exactly what your shoulder needs!
Pull yourself together and get over there.
Old 13 June 2005, 08:32 AM
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Unfortunately beer was definately the main cause of this, oh that and the kerb and hard concrete pavement!!! gotta go now hospital appointment at 9:03!!!

Cheers,

King RA (Scott )
Old 13 June 2005, 08:45 AM
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broke mine twice

its a bit sketchy getting to sleep at night for the first few weeks isnt it
Old 13 June 2005, 09:22 AM
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Broke mine when I was a kid, fell off a bike into a wall. Took about a month to heal completely, had to wear a sling to support it, other than that there isn't much they can do. I remember it hurt alot at the time I did it but the pain subsided after a few days.

Yours looks quite bad though, I guess they are going to have to set it or something.
Old 13 June 2005, 11:41 AM
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Ouch! That brings back memories.

I managed to break both mine in one go in a karting accident about 8 years ago. Flipped the kart at about 40mph and instinctively put both my arms out to break my fall ... think I was pretty lucky all things considered. I had to have both my arms in slings and couldn't do much for myself. Luckily I was still living at home at the time even though it wasn't much fun having my Mum and Dad feeding me at the age of 22 (and worse!).

I was off work about 6 weeks, but one of my collarbones didn't heal properly and they had to re-break it under anaesthetic and join it together with a metal plate. I now have a nice little row of screw heads visible under my skin on my collarbone. It gives me vast amounts of amusement when I relate the story to girls and ask if they want to feel my nuts ...
Old 13 June 2005, 11:46 AM
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Right went to the hospital and they said it was pretty bad. They only operate as a last resort due to the complications though so I've gotta see how I go for the next few weeks and go from there.

Sleeping is a nightmare as I hate going to sleep laying on my back and now I have no choice!!!!

Originally Posted by regacy
Don't miss LeMans for that.
Unless you're planning to swing over there on monkey bars I would have thought a heavily sedated weekend in the sunshine is exactly what your shoulder needs!
Pull yourself together and get over there.
You know what mate I was on the phone to the ferry company to transfer it all into my friends name/car and reading that is so true. I've hung up the phone and thought sod it, that is EXACTLY what I need!!! Cheers m8!!!

Roll on a painfull/yet highly sedated le mans woohoooo!!!
Old 13 June 2005, 12:04 PM
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Cheers for the words of support and advice Rob, Paul and everyone else!!! Glad, you like the image Saxo Boy, must say I was quite pleased with it myself when I first saw it!!!!
Old 13 June 2005, 01:06 PM
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[QUOTE=King RA] They only operate as a last resort due to the complications though .................

BUGGER THAT!! (unless you are too old or unfit for an anaesthetic)

If that was me i'd be insisting on on ORIF (Open Reduction Internal Fixation) or screw and plate ala meccano

There is a good degree of displacement and foreshortening there to give you problems imho.

i'd ask for a second opinion at least
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Why can't you people be more careful!
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Originally Posted by Graz
Broke mine when I was a kid, fell off a bike into a wall. Took about a month to heal completely, had to wear a sling to support it, other than that there isn't much they can do. I remember it hurt alot at the time I did it but the pain subsided after a few days.

Yours looks quite bad though, I guess they are going to have to set it or something.
Same here except i fell off a roundabout whilst it was going at speed clean break and healed with no problems

Tony
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Not done my collarbone, but have done my shoulder......

Resultant operation....

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[QUOTE=dicky ticker]
Originally Posted by King RA
They only operate as a last resort due to the complications though .................

BUGGER THAT!! (unless you are too old or unfit for an anaesthetic)

If that was me i'd be insisting on on ORIF (Open Reduction Internal Fixation) or screw and plate ala meccano

There is a good degree of displacement and foreshortening there to give you problems imho.

i'd ask for a second opinion at least
Sorry mate, but thats complete rubbish.

All clavicle fractures look like that - its due to the anatomy - the two ends are always pulled apart.

95% of clavilce fractures will heal with a broad arm sling.

ORIF etc is seldom used - except for open fractures i.e bone protuding from the skin or if the fracture fails to unite (glue) together after several months.

Saying that - a few professional sportsmen can get it operated on if they want to get back to work etc - franki chilli - the superbike rider had his clavicled plated and was back riding in 5 days - not to be recommended though!
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bet that hurt talizman

Originally Posted by porkerboy
ORIF etc is seldom used - except for open fractures i.e bone protuding from the skin or if the fracture fails to unite (glue) together after several months.
Thats pretty much what they told me.
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[QUOTE=porkerboy]Sorry mate, but thats complete rubbish.

porker

15 years in radiology gives ME a different opinion.

i won't bore everybody with the finer details of the radiographic presentation of clavicle fractures but you are obviously in the know too.

i know certain fractures are treated conservatively if they are not disabling or involving a joint. i know 99% of them will heal BUT with a degree of deformity which is considered acceptable by the orthopaedic fraternity NOT necessarily by the patient

15 years has made me cynical and I still stand by MY personal opinion that I would want an ORIF

best of look to the king and enjoy your trip


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