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Old 01 June 2005, 02:35 PM
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Default Files - how long should you keep them for?

Probably and accounting question or maybe legal. Well, you know all your files (bills, bank statements, property purchases/sales, payslips etc.), how long should you keep them for? I heard that it was 5 years. Anything older isn't needed?

I'm just thinking of a purge of old docs but wanna make sure I have as much info as is required for the future should I need a loan, mortgage, start a business or whatever etc.
Old 01 June 2005, 02:50 PM
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I keep everything, thought you had too for at least 5 years too but we had a thread like this about 6 months ago and Im sure it came to light that you dont really need to keep any of them.... probably best to keep the last 3 months incase you ever had to apply for a loan/morgage etc.... still got a shoe box with every single wage slip in it from when I left school and started work.. so that will be 9 years worth of pay slips now must have a full tree
Old 01 June 2005, 02:51 PM
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I heard that it was 5 years.
It used to be 6 years...not 100% certain what it is now..sorry
Old 01 June 2005, 02:58 PM
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Bank statements etc - keep them as far back as you feel comfortable, 12 months would usually be enough.

Tax / Pay Slips / dividens / interest etc is a slightly different issue, this site covers it, but basically it's 12 months after the closing date of the tax year that they occured in.

This increases to 5 years for property releated stuff. This is just a synopsis - read the page for more...
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2 days....you can always get them from banks etc if you need them.
Old 01 June 2005, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
2 days....you can always get them from banks etc if you need them.
Well you live and learn, didn't realise you could get a new P60 issued if you lost / disposed of it.
Old 01 June 2005, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I keep everything, thought you had too for at least 5 years too but we had a thread like this about 6 months ago and Im sure it came to light that you dont really need to keep any of them.... probably best to keep the last 3 months incase you ever had to apply for a loan/morgage etc.... still got a shoe box with every single wage slip in it from when I left school and started work.. so that will be 9 years worth of pay slips now must have a full tree
Ditto, but 16 years for me, amazing what i used to live on. my bank statements for that time are great, gradually more and more overdrawn every month till the bons month, back to 0....lol

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Old 01 June 2005, 03:41 PM
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I thought P60s and P11Ds need to be kept for circa 6 years?
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Originally Posted by DrEvil
I thought P60s and P11Ds need to be kept for circa 6 years?
According to the site I cited above, you have to keep them for 12 months after the end of the tax year to which they apply.

However, I believe Tiggs works in the finicial world and says you just chuck it all out and request a new copy if you need one. Sounds good to me.
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lol.....my advice was not official!

im sure there are lots of rules on what to keep and how long etc etc....PERSONALLY....unless its for fun (old files on 1st house etc) i chuck it out pretty soon after getting it (tax stuff is the only exception - and business records if you have one)

things like statements.......i fail to see the point. If the world trade centre can fall over and business goes on im sure i can chuck out a 2 month old savings account statement and not fall apart!
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There's no legal obligation for an individual to keep them, so bin the lot if you want, but keeping a years worth of payslips & your last P60 should cover any future loans etc.

(If you're trading as sole trader, partnership, ltd co, Vat registered it's very different.)

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Originally Posted by Dunk
There's no legal obligation for an individual to keep them, so bin the lot if you want, but keeping a years worth of payslips & your last P60 should cover any future loans etc.

(If you're trading as sole trader, partnership, ltd co, Vat registered it's very different.)

D
Hmmm - this bit is the killer:
Failure to keep 'adequate' records and documents can lead to a fine of up to £3,000
Not definition of "adequate" but I dobut chucking all tax related docs older than a couple of weeks old is going to wash. The "guideline" seems to be 12 months after the end of the tax year. Seems reasonable to me.
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you have to be going some to get fined for it!

i have heard ( of someone that didnt keep any motoring bills yet claimed them all on self assesment.........theres always a deal to be though and they want things sorted as much as you.

(anyway - i'd pay £3k a year to have a paperless office )
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If the IR investigate you it's unlikely to be over your employment (unless a Co director)
Keep two years p60's if your filing cupboard will cope.
For most whose income is 100% derived from an employer the minimal will suffice ...if you've a tax structure similar to Maxwell, you may want to get a filing cabinet & a shredder.

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Old 01 June 2005, 04:51 PM
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I kept pretty much everything over the years. However I now have a scanner for my PC and I've decided to scan it all, copy it on a CD, then bin it with the exception of about 12 months worth of paper history for tax purposes.
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Originally Posted by Graz
I kept pretty much everything over the years. However I now have a scanner for my PC and I've decided to scan it all, copy it on a CD, then bin it with the exception of about 12 months worth of paper history for tax purposes.
Unless you have a sheet feeder - see you in about 20 years or so
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