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Old 13 April 2005, 11:17 AM
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To put it bluntly I want bigger arms, forearms in particular. I have a fast metabolism and have found it very difficult to gain weight all my life. However, I am now happy with my general weight and now want to start toning up. I'm not a gym person and even if I was there isnt one for miles around my patch. My hieght is about 5ft11 and weigh 12 stone exactly.

Anyone got any ideas as to what my best plan of action could/would be? I have a set of dumbells at present only but have no idea about what specific routines I should be doing with them???
Old 13 April 2005, 11:31 AM
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Only three exercises to be honest;

Reverse curls. Same as regular curls, except with an overhand grip. Not as easy with dumbells as it is with a bar, but can be done.

Hammer curls. Same as regular dumbell curls, but keep your thumb at the top, don't twist your arm round to flex the biceps.

Wrist curls. Easiest at the end of a bench, with your forearms resting on it, then using overhand grip again, curl your wrists up as far as they will go.


Forearms take years to build specifically though. Most blokes with big arms have got them from continual powerlifting, especially deadlifts, but as isolation exercises the above will make some difference. Five or six sets of each, 6 to 8 reps each...
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Don't concentrate on just bulking up your arms, you need to do the whole body th stop looking "uneven". But - I find lifting 85% of maximum for 2 sets until failure works wonders for bulking up! Make sure you keep to good form (no using your body to heave a bicep curl up). I find this works for all exercises, but if concentrating on arms, I would go for bicep curls, and possibly dips (with weights) to bulk up the arms.
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Cheers Telboy, should I consider some form of supplement as well? If so would you recommend one?
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Diet's a big part, yes. If you're not going the artificial route, then make sure you're eating enough, with protein a focus. A decent protein supplement (i use Met-RX but there are many) will assist with this. To get big, you have to eat and train big - something to bear in mind. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by TonyFlow
Don't concentrate on just bulking up your arms, you need to do the whole body th stop looking "uneven". But - I find lifting 85% of maximum for 2 sets until failure works wonders for bulking up! Make sure you keep to good form (no using your body to heave a bicep curl up). I find this works for all exercises, but if concentrating on arms, I would go for bicep curls, and possibly dips (with weights) to bulk up the arms.
The reason I mentioned just arms at this stage is that I have fairly defined everything else, legs in particular. My arms are non-existent in comparison. The only other thing I feel I need to work on is the old belly
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Only three exercises to be honest;

Reverse curls. Same as regular curls, except with an overhand grip. Not as easy with dumbells as it is with a bar, but can be done.

Hammer curls. Same as regular dumbell curls, but keep your thumb at the top, don't twist your arm round to flex the biceps.

Wrist curls. Easiest at the end of a bench, with your forearms resting on it, then using overhand grip again, curl your wrists up as far as they will go.


Forearms take years to build specifically though. Most blokes with big arms have got them from continual powerlifting, especially deadlifts, but as isolation exercises the above will make some difference. Five or six sets of each, 6 to 8 reps each...
3 exercises x 6 sets x 8 reps = 144 reps Thats a lot for dinky forearms!
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
3 exercises x 6 sets x 8 reps = 144 reps Thats a lot for dinky forearms!
Not particularly, and depends on the weights involved tiggs.
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
3 exercises x 6 sets x 8 reps = 144 reps Thats a lot for dinky forearms!
I was just about to say similar

5 sets of three exercises for such a small muscle is crazy, you will more likely overtrain, get injured, lose muscle size. Don't forget the forearms are heavily used in all other upper body excercises.

If your geared up to the eyeballs though you can probably get away with doing so much for your forearms

I personally do 1 set of reverse curls and 1 set of wrist curls after training biceps and that seems more than enough for such a small muscle.

Damian.

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Yer poofs


And i'm sure you ALL limit the amount or reps you do on those nice showy biceps too?? No, thought not!! If you want forearms, you have to train them. *Very* difficult to overtrain forearms, as you're gripping things all day long. They need shock treatment.

Next?
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I'm going with your advice TelBoy, makes sense to me.
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Would cracking a couple off, on a daily basis, using alternatate wrists give forearms as developed as yours Terrence?
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LOL, yes. Never done a forearm exercise in my life...
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Is this thread heading for the hutch yet?
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Prodriva's taking my advice, Karl
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Most of the muscle bulk in your arms is in the Triceps, so don't forget to concentrate on those. Simple press-ups are good for adding some bulk. You'll never be Mr Olympia doing just press-ups, but if you do lots of variations (normal, wide, close, for example) and perform them right they will make a difference. If the get too easy put some weights in a rucsac and stick that on your back.

I found pull-ups great for arm strength. Do girlie ones (underhand) to focus on the biceps and proper ones (overhand) to put more stress on the forearms and back.

If you can do 20 slowly, then start adding weight and cut down the reps.

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Originally Posted by TelBoy
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And i'm sure you ALL limit the amount or reps you do on those nice showy biceps too??
Next?

They should be, biceps is small muscle and a couple of sets of curls is enough..............in fact, if you are doing rows and chins heavy you may not need much direct bicep work at all. (how many curls do male gymnasts do? bet they could bang out some pullups though!)
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deadlifts (sans straps of course) and farmers walk... all u need for awesome grip and forearm strength/size. plate holds with pinch grip and static holds are also pretty good.
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
They should be, biceps is small muscle and a couple of sets of curls is enough..............in fact, if you are doing rows and chins heavy you may not need much direct bicep work at all. (how many curls do male gymnasts do? bet they could bang out some pullups though!)
yep. most of the bodybuilders/powerlifters with the best biceps hit them directly very rarely or not at all. bis are easy to overtrain and are better built with heavy rows and chins. curling with small weights will never build the mass of lifting heavy.
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If you inject some stuff directly, it works wonders. There was a photo on here not long ago of a walking advert for the success of this method. Can anyone find it?
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
If you inject some stuff directly, it works wonders. There was a photo on here not long ago of a walking advert for the success of this method. Can anyone find it?
you're probably talking about synthol... one of the most abused substances in bodybuilding. not recommended at all. site injecting other steroids tends not to promote site growth... but synthol does... not in a good way tho.

i think the photo you're talking about is greg valentino:
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Ah, that was the one!

(milo, you should know me by now, my post had a huge great in the background)
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Ah, that was the one!

(milo, you should know me by now, my post had a huge great in the background)
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thats soooooo cool!
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
thats soooooo cool!
it was until one of his biceps popped
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