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Old 04 April 2005, 09:21 AM
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Went past one on the A11 this morning, and I swear it flashed (Tax ran out 31 March). I am going to get my tax today, will I still get an £80 penalty? Do they come in the same format as a speending fine? Knew I should have got up earlier on Saturday!

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Old 04 April 2005, 10:57 AM
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Hmm tricky one... not sure tbh. I always thought you had 2 weeks grace to get ur new one sorted out, but am not sure if that still counts?

Not much help LMF... sorry
Old 04 April 2005, 11:08 AM
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Tax cameras don't flash. Use ANPR = video system. AFAIK there is no 'grace' period now. This is to stop people missing a month every year knowing that the probability of getting caught is low.
Old 04 April 2005, 11:11 AM
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I thought it was all done on computers now?

The impression I got from the adverts on TV was that "the computer" automatically sends out a fine if a new disc wasn't purchased for that car or if a SORN document wasn't received. Not sure though.
Old 04 April 2005, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by speedking
AFAIK there is no 'grace' period now. This is to stop people missing a month every year knowing that the probability of getting caught is low.
Makes sense
Old 04 April 2005, 11:15 AM
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@SirFozzalot : there was a post elsewhere stating that the computer coverage is currently only 15% of vehicles. The cameras will also spot other miscreants so may as well check tax at the same time.
Old 04 April 2005, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by speedking
@SirFozzalot : there was a post elsewhere stating that the computer coverage is currently only 15% of vehicles. The cameras will also spot other miscreants so may as well check tax at the same time.
15% Hardly worth it!
Old 04 April 2005, 11:41 AM
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They will only send a fine out if you miss a month. As you have to pay for the existing month even if you tak it on the last day of the month the government wont have lost out. I regularly dont tax my cars until later in the month and never have a problem. Obviously if the Police stop you then you will have a little explaining to do.
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dtriggs - so buying my tax today I should be okay?????

My questions would be I suppose, is how long does the 'computer' give you before it sends out a penalty?
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Jan 1 2004: From today, anyone who does not renew a car licence within a month will receive an automatic £80 penalty.

The 7th paragraph of this may give you some comfort.

"Continuous registration" is the buzz phrase.

Risk of unfairness - there is a risk that the proposals will be seen to affect those who allow their vehicles to become unlicensed for short periods, through oversight or other difficulty, rather than the hard-core evader. The Regulations provide that a supplement is payable when a vehicle has been unlicensed for a month or more (although enforcement action under Section 29 of the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act may still be taken if a vehicle is detected unlicensed on the road during that initial month).

Any vehicle used or kept on a public road in the United Kingdom is required, by law, to display a valid vehicle tax disc. Not displaying is an offence.

The law re not displaying licence disc.

The law re using untaxed vehicle.

dtriggs: why? If you intend to pay anyway, why risk a fine?

Last edited by speedking; 04 April 2005 at 01:03 PM. Reason: Add law re not displaying disc.
Old 04 April 2005, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SirFozzalot
I thought it was all done on computers now?
Cameras are still there. Partly I suspect to catch cars that have been declared off road, but are still being driven about, (which wouldn't be able to be detected by the computer).
Old 04 April 2005, 04:08 PM
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Speedking - yeah, mostly it's just my useless memory !!! But last time I was trying to swap cars before having to pay and it didnt quite work. I then had to pay for March (to cover 3 days owning the old car) and then pay for the month again on the new car !!
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