Are we becoming less immune
25 March 2005, 07:39 AM
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Are we becoming less immune
I was just reading the latest "I'm sick" thread
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412013
Now if I'm lucky I will usually have 1 cold a year, which under normal circumstances doesn't stop me from working.
Since November I have had 4 separate colds, and had a couple of days off due to the "strength" of the cold, the same can be said for lots of friends and family, and obviously work colleagues.
I got home from work last night and the house stank of Garlic, yes another cold in the house the Mrs has it and has been munching roasted Garlic to aid her recovery, personally I don't think it works but it stinks your house out and sleeping next to the person that ate all those cloves is not a pleasant experience as they gently breath their poisonous stench in your direction.
Is it that the strains of these virus' have become stronger and better at attacking our immune system or as a race is our immune system becoming weaker, if Bird flu were to arrive on our shores could it take out hundreds/thousands whose immune system is already weak after suffering a handful of colds this winter?? any Dr types who'd like to pass comment??
Dave
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412013
Now if I'm lucky I will usually have 1 cold a year, which under normal circumstances doesn't stop me from working.
Since November I have had 4 separate colds, and had a couple of days off due to the "strength" of the cold, the same can be said for lots of friends and family, and obviously work colleagues.
I got home from work last night and the house stank of Garlic, yes another cold in the house the Mrs has it and has been munching roasted Garlic to aid her recovery, personally I don't think it works but it stinks your house out and sleeping next to the person that ate all those cloves is not a pleasant experience as they gently breath their poisonous stench in your direction.
Is it that the strains of these virus' have become stronger and better at attacking our immune system or as a race is our immune system becoming weaker, if Bird flu were to arrive on our shores could it take out hundreds/thousands whose immune system is already weak after suffering a handful of colds this winter?? any Dr types who'd like to pass comment??
Dave
25 March 2005, 08:15 AM
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well i aint a doctor but i reckon were too 'clean' and as a result makes us more susceptable to infection. astma / hayfever etc seems to be more common than ever.
parents go nuts if a kid eats mud etc, its probably good for them in the long run?
parents go nuts if a kid eats mud etc, its probably good for them in the long run?
25 March 2005, 08:32 AM
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People are *too clean* as rgv puts it. Article lately about cleaning sprays etc and how they *could* be linked to asthma, etc etc One of the things repsonsible for the increase in these. Plus the crap diet most people have with hardly any water and zero fresh fruit and veg.
Then there's the way doctors dish out tablets ***** nilly. Example, neighbour goes to docs recently with bad headaches. Prescibes here mild anti-depressants as a pain killer! No asking about lifestyle or anything and the fact she is now almost a sugar-holic plus lots of coffee and fizzy drinks with zero water. Just straight on the pills. That and other little episodes mean that I rarely trust what doctors (GPs) say these days.
Just eat healthyly and exercise, plenty of water and sleep and most things will pass you by ....
Dave
PS: and my 9 month old seems to have got into eating grass and all sorts at the moment . I'm sure it'll do him good in the long run .... :-)
Then there's the way doctors dish out tablets ***** nilly. Example, neighbour goes to docs recently with bad headaches. Prescibes here mild anti-depressants as a pain killer! No asking about lifestyle or anything and the fact she is now almost a sugar-holic plus lots of coffee and fizzy drinks with zero water. Just straight on the pills. That and other little episodes mean that I rarely trust what doctors (GPs) say these days.
Just eat healthyly and exercise, plenty of water and sleep and most things will pass you by ....
Dave
PS: and my 9 month old seems to have got into eating grass and all sorts at the moment . I'm sure it'll do him good in the long run .... :-)
25 March 2005, 09:35 AM
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Totally agree re the GP comments, they just want to shove pills down our throats and get the next punter in, my 19 month old daughter had a cold during the winter and a nasty cough the Doc said she had Asthma and prescribes inhalers and we're like WTF how can you say she's asthmatic, she wasn't !! also agree with the comments on mud and grass, the amount of things I have pulled out of her mouth!! we had a small party last summer for her first and one of my friends, a mother, was so uptight, a crisp had hit the grass and her daughter went to grab it and put it back in her mouth it was "STOP SPIT IT OUT" and then she berated her husband for not noticing LOL.
I must do 8 pints of water a day, I love the stuff and have plenty of fresh fish, veg and so on so I have a healthy nutritious diet (apart from the choc
) I have no choice as my missus is a health freak and with her being intollerant to Wheat Yeast and Dairy so I have no choice in eating properly but still the colds kept coming, which made me think we are becoming less immune. I'll be joining my daughter in the garden having a munch on some mud or the odd stone later 
At least its nothing like Mark16v has got in his thread
I must do 8 pints of water a day, I love the stuff and have plenty of fresh fish, veg and so on so I have a healthy nutritious diet (apart from the choc
) I have no choice as my missus is a health freak and with her being intollerant to Wheat Yeast and Dairy so I have no choice in eating properly but still the colds kept coming, which made me think we are becoming less immune. I'll be joining my daughter in the garden having a munch on some mud or the odd stone later At least its nothing like Mark16v has got in his thread
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Well, just to hijack this thread in the same manner as i did the other ....
I was talking to one of the nurses while I was in the Coronary Care Unit. He said that he'd worked there for 4 years and he's noticed, even in the last two years only, quite a dramatic increase in the number of 30-somethings and 40-somethings that they were seeing...I'm the latter BTW!
Apart from family history, the main causes of heart attacks are smoking, high blood pressure, high cholestrol, physical inactivity, weight, alcohol and salt...
...which all look IMHO to be pretty likely side effects of the current lifestyles of this age bracket - and therefore maybe a lot of us on SN
Take care....
....I was talking to one of the nurses while I was in the Coronary Care Unit. He said that he'd worked there for 4 years and he's noticed, even in the last two years only, quite a dramatic increase in the number of 30-somethings and 40-somethings that they were seeing...I'm the latter BTW!
Apart from family history, the main causes of heart attacks are smoking, high blood pressure, high cholestrol, physical inactivity, weight, alcohol and salt...
...which all look IMHO to be pretty likely side effects of the current lifestyles of this age bracket - and therefore maybe a lot of us on SN
Take care....
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More wine anyone
Seriously I think you are right, and if that bird flu were to land on our shores I would hate to think what sort of chaos/panic that might incure.
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Colin
Seriously I think you are right, and if that bird flu were to land on our shores I would hate to think what sort of chaos/panic that might incure.Cheers
Colin
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Speaking to a friend who is a Gp about this sort of stuff a while ago. He's convinced that we ARE too "careful" with kids these days. Once upon a time kids were exposed to all kinds of germs and things - and we developed a strong immune system because we had to!
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