suprabeast

This wasn't me, was my sister but the story is, she goes up the shops and drops my mum off to walk in and buy something, shes there 2 mins and sits outside on a single yellow for about 2 mins. Engine is still running and she is causing no obstruction.

NOw traffic warden walks up behind the car and takes a photo on digital camera, prints the ticket and gives it to my mum as she walks back to the car. My sister then gets out and rips the ticket up in her face! And drives home pissed off!

Now my question is: is a ticket valid if its not stuck to the car?? And is digital phototography now sufficient evidence to stand up in court??

Lastly: If you are sitting in a car with engine running and footbrake on, are you technically parked>??

imlach

Yes, Yes, and yes.

I ask again, what makes your sister so special such that she can alter the rulebook to suit herself?

She was wrong, she got caught. What's the issue here?

suprabeast

shut up you tit...

imlach

You & your sister sound alike

suprabeast

if i wanted a ******** answer , i would have asked tiggs for his opinion

:P

imlach

I gave my answer. I stated the facts.

suprabeast

well i dont believe that a car is parked if the engine is running and the handbrake isnt on

Felix.

I'm afraid imlach is right. Single yellows I believe is a no waiting zone. You took a chance and got caught. Learn from it and move on.

imlach

The trouble is, scum like this never learn. They always think they are above the rules. Good grief, the warden was only doing his job.

davegtt

aye they're right, doesnt matter how long you was thre for, end of the day the car shouldnt have been stationary/waiting/parked etc on the yellow line, got caught end off. how u gonna argue it? pretty much impossible

suprabeast

The trouble is, you're a tosser

imlach

Valid contribution is always welcome

suprabeast

Waiting restrictions

Waiting restrictions indicated by yellow lines apply to the carriageway, pavement and verge. You may stop to load or unload (unless there are also loading restrictions as described below) or while passengers board or alight. Double yellow lines mean no waiting at any time, unless there are signs that specifically indicate seasonal restrictions. The times at which the restrictions apply for other road markings are shown on nearby plates or on entry signs to controlled parking zones. If no days are shown on the signs, the restrictions are in force every day including Sundays and Bank Holidays. White bay markings and upright signs (see below) indicate where parking is allowed.

OllyK

She was sat there for 2 mins without the handbrake on??

suprabeast

sounds like loading is allowed to me, and thats what they were doing...

ajm

LOL @ the SN self righteous brigade!

She parked on a yellow.... BURN her!!!!

imlach

No they weren't. They were being lazy scum.

suprabeast

yeah cos her handbrake is crap..

booked in for next week in garage

OllyK

There's your answer, it doesn't take 2 minutes to get in to a car. Your Mum wasn't there in the process of getting in or out when the traffic warden caught your sister - bang to rights, end of.

Vette_76

Valid contribution is always welcome!!

suprabeast

a hahaha... your actually more of a prickl than i originally thought.... if they can't carry something to the car park cos its too heavy then they are loading... so crawl back into your hole

suprabeast

but it does take 2 mins to load

davegtt

If you believe your right why the **** have you bothered to post here? go and contest it, youve described a situation and people have disagreed with you... yes its unfortunate she was caught and Id be miffed about it too but end of the day I'd know I was in the wrong and just pay the fine. not like your gonna get any lasting points on the license or anything

OllyK

Think you are getting in to technicalities here. If you Mum had been waiting at the curb with said package when you sister arrived then I doubt there would have been a problem. It sounds like there was no sign of the loader or package when your sister was caught.

Beastie

iTrader: (2)

Thought you were allowed up to 20 minutes for loading.

Technically the car was being driven at the time stated and was not parked.

IMHO

davegtt

have you really looked into this? surely loading might come under another rule/regulation? i.e only applicable to lorries etc who are loading for the shops on the street. not private car users who cant be ar$ed to carry something back to the car park

OllyK

I'm lost here, your mum was in the shop, your sister is sitting in the car - where is the loading there? If they were out of the car with the boot open lifting the goods in, then that's loading. Sitting in the car with the handbrake off and the foot brake on is parking. Hope your sister didn't get out to help load?!

suprabeast

i didnt ask the baord whether it was right or wrong to park there... i asked whether a digital photo is valid without the ticket on display on the car

suprabeast

thats what i thought...

davegtt

I never said you asked if you was right or wrong either