Petem95

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4230427.stm

Apparently council tax bands are to be revised, as they currently work on 1991 house values, but are now going to be re-worked for 2005 house values!!!

Get ready for some BIG rises!!! Labour have been making a killing from inflated house prices, with stamp duty and inheritance tax netting billions already!!

With 1.1trillion pounds of consumer debt in the UK, how much tax hikes/bill increases can people take before it all comes crashing down??!!

LG John

What a joke!!! I live in a modest flat which is not expensive in terms of the Edinburgh house market and yet I pay just over £100 as a single occupant for council tax per month. Thats 15th my banked wages which you might not think is a lot but consider mortgage, car running costs, fuels, food, etc, etc.

Iwan

April fool?

I hope so, but i'm not that lucky.

******* new labour again.

MattW

Nice house nice area, above average rise, ****ty house ****ty area lower bill.

Tax middle England again!!

pslewis

Its STILL going top be RELATIVE you daft muppets!!

Pete

MattW

Pete, it's based on averages, so if your house has gone up in value above the average you will pay more. If it is below the average you pay less.

Nice houses in nice areas are unlikely to be below average are they, ex council flats in high rise blocks will be

pslewis

Since when has living in a nice street in a nice house in a nice area been cheaper than living in a high rise in a scum ridden drug crazed estate?????

Of course it costs MORE and it SHOULD! whats the problem????????

Pete

angrynorth

Relative to what Pete. Relative to people who were old enough to buy a house before the prices went out of control?

The amount of money I pay on a mortgage and council tax now would have bought me the equivalent of a 300k house only 5 years back. House prices continue to rise, yet in most parts of Britain the wages aren't increasing to keep up with them.

Kind of unfair on many people out there, I have no consumer debt but I still have to keep up with extortionate house prices and the second highest council tax rates in the UK and I am far from comfortable. I manage to live in to a decent standard in a decent house, but it leaves me far from flush at the end of every month.

Please explain, using your biblical knowledge of the world and everybody's circumstances how me paying more council tax will stay relevant to me? I bet it increases more than a cost of living rise.

You CAN USE CAPS if you feel you need to get your POINT ACROSS like I know you enjoy doing.

MattW

Never said it was I was trying to iterate that one will pay more than one would now.

pslewis

Band A house will cost £x

Band B £x + £y

Band C £x + £y + £z

Its fair, its right, its relative

What is the issue???

Pete

No-one said life was fair ...... get on with it!

pslewis

And I was saying that, maybe, one SHOULD pay MORE than one does now ..... so those in poor areas can get the break that your rising house prices have given you!?

Pete

pslewis

I do wonder where the world is going when simple economics flash by some on here

Pete

angrynorth

Yes that bit is relative, but :

Wages - council tax - mortgage = Massively disproportionate in many areas, hence not relative.

Further increases will only serve to make it less relative to income.

MattW

Pete my dear old fellow, since when has my house price rise given me a break. the only benefit I get is when I cark it, and my family get a wedge, plus the chancellor of course.

pslewis

AND?.....................

Pete

pslewis

You can use the equity to buy things like Plasma TVs, Cars, Holidays ..... or didn't you know that??

Pete

angrynorth

and, DICKSPLASH, that means that it will only serve to push this country as a whole further into debt as more and more people borrow to cover their shortcomings. You are as out of touch as that plonker you so admire.

MattW

Really, anyone who did that would be a right plonker surely? Bit like trying to run a country by running up a massive debt

pslewis

Borrow??

You are clearly living beyond your means then - I suggest you do some budget analysis rather than posting bollox on here!!

Pete

MattW

pslewis

Its still a break - you can tap into the wealth that Labour has allowed you to build up in your property ...... if you CHOOSE not to use it then so be it!

Pete

Flatcapdriver

So, with simple economics let's assume that I live in a farm workers cottage in the country that has no mains sewage, no street lighting, no police presence, refuse collection every fortnight and a lane that is used by townies as a shortcut which inevitably has led to it's deterioration - this means that I should pay more for the "priviledge" than a homeowner living in one of the local towns because their house is worth more?

angrynorth

Pete, I will forgive you this, due to your age and the obvious senile dementure symptoms, but if you re-read my posts you will note I have no borrowing currently.

Many people though in a similar position to me may be faced with an awkward decision, borrow more or move out into a crappy house if the rates increase by their predicted amount.

pslewis

Of course, councils need to raise a certain amount of money and they will do it (quite rightly) by hitting the richest ..................

How many voted in the Local Council Elections then?? Hmmmmmm, thought so! Looks like its your own fault then!!

Ha Ha

Pete

pslewis

So ...... you are ASSUMING that someone else may, or may not, need to move to carry on living?? ............ but then may borrow, or may not - but then again what if they have no bin??

I think you are assuming a little too much, don't you??

Pete

MattW

I did and every election prior including general ones.

Edited to say - since i was eligible of course. Wasn't able to vote when the last great Labour PM Mr Callaghan was in office.

pslewis

SO ITS YOUR FAULT THEN?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pete

MattW

very good, lol walked into that

pslewis

Goodnite

Pete