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Old 16 December 2004, 08:03 AM
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Question Cognitive Behavioural Therapy

I had never heard of this until yesterday and it seems most people i know hadn't heard of it either!

Just wondered if anyone on here had experience of it? Probably better if you PM me.

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Old 16 December 2004, 08:39 AM
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An excellent reference site here
Old 16 December 2004, 08:47 AM
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Thanks-i've read up all about it. Just wondered if anyone had personal views on its effectiveness.

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Old 16 December 2004, 08:51 AM
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My personal viewpoint is that it's Stating The Bleedin Obvious in a dressed-up psycho-analytical wrapping, but then that's easy for me to say sitting here with most of my marbles. Sometimes though, people DO need to be led through, step-by-step, their own minds, to understand themselves first and foremost, before they can begin tackling their problems. CBT is just a formalisation of that process, in my opinion.
Old 16 December 2004, 09:10 AM
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CBT is a bit namby pamby and generally weak IMHO (had 3 wasted years of this)

This did very little to help me and generally I wasted years messing around with this. I guess it depends on the therapist, but I agree with Telboy that it states the bleedin' obvious.

It may work for someone that has no idea at all with how thoughts and emotions link to physical well-being, but other than that I'd go for a more direct and effective approach like psychoanalysis or hypnotherapy.

Good luck
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I've got all my marbles Telboy

SiPie-hmm it did strike me as being a little obvious when i read about it, i don't want to waste my time but then again i don't want to dismiss anything without trying either. There is apparently a long waiting list for this ( ! ) I'd hoped it would be worth waiting for.......but by the sounds of it, maybe not for me.

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Old 16 December 2004, 09:12 AM
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Old 16 December 2004, 09:17 AM
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Old 16 December 2004, 09:21 AM
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I'd make a crap psychologist. I'd want to slap all the clients round the chops and tell them to get a grip! But many people DO make a fortune from this sort of thing. But as i say, i can't imagine what it's like to not be able to sit yourself down and have a clear, logical, honest discussion with yourself, and work out exactly where the problems lie, without needing a "professional" to guide you through the process.

Are you able to divulge what symptoms you're expereincing that make you believe that CBT might be beneficial?
Old 16 December 2004, 09:26 AM
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CBT has helped me alot. Alot of it is the obvious but there is alot that isn't, realising other triggers that lead to certain thoughts that lead to certain outcomes.

When you get to a certain mental point, the obvious is not obvious.
Old 16 December 2004, 09:31 AM
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Are you able to divulge what symptoms you're expereincing that make you believe that CBT might be beneficial?
Well without being accused of turning SN into a medical forum, i won't 'divulge' much, but i have being diagonosed with Post Natal depression which has made other symptoms worse. And i'm not the type that sees popping pills as a solution in the long term.
Old 16 December 2004, 09:34 AM
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I had CBT in conjunction with my medication.

If your PND is mild then you may find CBT is enough, but if pills are recommended then I would take them. In the last 5 years my mind has been to hell and back.
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realising other triggers that lead to certain thoughts that lead to certain outcomes.
.....or learning how you react to things perhaps ?

When you get to a certain mental point, the obvious is not obvious.
I agree with the above, but by that point IMHO, identifying the triggers are not as important as dealing with calming the physical rection that takes place.

Telboy, you would make a crap psychologist

CBT has helped thousands of people and I guess it's just a case of finding out what works best for you.

If your PND is mild then you may find CBT is enough,
Hang on !!!!! A chemical/hormonal state is being treated with corrective thinking Not an expert but surely the PND must be deemed to be the tip of the iceberg if CBT has been prescribed ... ?

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Old 16 December 2004, 09:39 AM
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Ah, i see. Possibly worth investigating then, as the effects will be felt by your partner and family, of course. My sister went through bad PND after her first son, don't think she did anything like CBT, but like most women, it just gradually disappeared over time. The worst thing was that she couldn't recognise it in herself, whereas it was blindingly obvious to the rest of us. Having a Dad that is zero-tolerant to mental health issues didn't help.

That you recognise it is surely the first step forward though? Personally speaking, if you're at that stage, i'd avoid entering the world of CBT, which might, ironically, protract and unnecessarily complicate your recovery.
Old 16 December 2004, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
Telboy, you would make a crap psychologist

Know your strengths, i say!!
Old 16 December 2004, 09:43 AM
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I've seen it work, and was impressed at its effectiveness. Would it work on me? Dunno, never been in that situation myself, but it's not something I'd be averse to.
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CBT is not corrective thinking. Well, mine isn't. I suppose it depends on your meaning of corrective.

For me, CBT is used as part of the healing process when your mind has opened upto it .
Old 16 December 2004, 09:47 AM
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Having a Dad that is zero-tolerant to mental health issues didn't help.
No it doesn't,quite right. As i have found out.

SiPie-you are on the right lines with your thinking.....the PND is being helped with medication which im not afraid to admit, but i *think* CBT has been prescribed to put coping strategies in place for when things are bad with other issues.
Old 16 December 2004, 11:04 AM
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CBT is not corrective thinking. Well, mine isn't.


You must have found some a new type then

Good luck Weapon69

Just what is CBT? How does it work?
Cognitive behavior therapy* combines two very effective kinds of psychotherapy — cognitive therapy and behavior therapy.

Behavior therapy helps you weaken the connections between troublesome situations and your habitual reactions to them. Reactions such as fear, depression or rage, and self-defeating or self-damaging behavior. It also teaches you how to calm your mind and body, so you can feel better, think more clearly, and make better decisions.

Cognitive therapy teaches you how certain thinking patterns are causing your symptoms — by giving you a distorted picture of what's going on in your life, and making you feel anxious, depressed or angry for no good reason, or provoking you into ill-chosen actions.

When combined into CBT, behavior therapy and cognitive therapy provide you with very powerful tools for stopping your symptoms and getting your life on a more satisfying track.

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Old 16 December 2004, 11:07 AM
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i went through cbt not so long ago, I found it helpfull and very informative. if I can be of any help please ask.

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Old 16 December 2004, 12:24 PM
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It just doesn't seem as fun as Seroxat !
Old 16 December 2004, 12:29 PM
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Yeah......Brilliant Drug....NOT

It just doesn't seem as fun as Seroxat !
Not long before it's withdrawn if you ask me....

Suicidal idealisation etc etc....

A lot more research needed into it, but it sure didn't agree with me
Old 16 December 2004, 01:33 PM
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just snap out of it love..

no seriously, very good for OCD conditions
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