Jaybird-UK

New bill announced yesterday, I know its been talked about before but it looks like its going to happen


"The devices, which alert drivers when they approach speed traps, will become illegal within a year under tough measures in the new Road Safety Bill. "

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ing%20Standard

jods

That is SUCH an amateur website.

Complete bollox of course.

Nice Try


Wnaker

G-STAR

I don’t get it. It seems fairly convincing to me, or am I just being stupid?



http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/

ajm

Ditto... perhaps this is more worthy source:-

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...181311,00.html

Its from a newspaper called "The Times" Jods.... not a very convincing name is it!

Jaybird-UK

Jods not exactly sure what your problem is but thisislondon.co.uk is owned and produced by Associated Newspapers, the people that produce the Daily Mail & Evening Standard amongst other things http://www.anm.co.uk/

Are you suggesting I faked the site?

jods

Maybe you did, maybe you didn't. But it still doesn't alter the fact that it is a very poorly executed website. Not only for layout, but for content.

Oh and by the time that WNAKER in #10 tries to tell me how else to run my life, he'll be out !!!

NB - JAYBIRD - Not calling you a wnaker - Just the wnakers in Gov who see fit to hammer the common man yet allow their own to escape "Sans Sanction" after being caught at well over 100 mph

AND they also spend OUR TAX £££ paying for private train journeys for friends / families - TW ATS

dba

it won't get onto the books,no time to pass it before the election

r32

Lets hope they get booted out before this becomes law. Its just persecution.
Did you know there are more motorists in Jail than burglars?

I think that fact show this Governments priorities.....

m3matt

tossers

SirFozzalot

At least my Origin B² is still ok!....for now!

T4molie

I was reading this article in the Evening Standard last night and found myself wondering if my Road Angel would still be legal - presumably if I unplugged the Laser Alert add-on???

SirFozzalot

From what I have read that should be fine.

boxst

Hello

Is this about not giving the driver when sent a NIP:

Steve.

Scoob99

iTrader: (1)

So the road Angel should be OK then has it has GPS in it
Cheers
Colin

SirFozzalot

That should mean that Origin B², Road Angel etc. will still be ok, as long as the radar/laser detector/jammer parts
are disconnected.

Neil Smalley

What about garage door openers ?

Nevetas

illigal, so the report says anyway.

Phil

They were "illegal" for years didn't stop people buying and using them then


and it won't stop now

IMHO of course

TelBoy

That was never legally proved though, Phil. What this is saying is that they'll introduce concrete legislation which will make use/ownership prosecutable, rather than just a finger-wagging from some pi$$ed-off copper who's missed another one for his monthly quota...

Neil Smalley

How can they ban infa red devices that open garage doors/work outside lights? Also The adaptive cruise sensors on some cars(primeras, jags and Mercs) also intefere with police lasers. I bet the owners of such cars will have a shock.

As usual it addresses a percieved problem, rather than a real one. Typical paper over the cracks mentality. cf Crime bill, ID Cards etc etc etc.

EddScott

Don't fancy paying out £400 odd plus a subscription for it to end up being illegal. OK its say for now GPS ones are OK like B2s but whose to say they won't change that to.

Also are these things worth it anyway? The worst things to catch you are either camera vans or patrol cars hiding up slip roads and the only thing that truly saves you is what is now becoming illegal. Mates got a snooper of some sort and he's still been done.

Phil

I stand corrected but it was percieved until recently that they were illegal.

Its like AM CB Radios in the 80's illegal YES! any prosecutions for using one?

I certainly didn't get done and the Policeman who lived next door to my parents at the time helped me fit mine!!!


Sure there will be lots of people taking them out not wanting to flout the law but those people will continue to speed

Merv

iTrader: (12)

I'm sure that they can be taken to bits and positioned around the car to make them undetectable

Leslie

Hedgehog was absolutely right then when he forecast the ban of radar detection devices but not GPS devices which tell you their position. I which case he will also be right about the future system to control your car for you while you are driving.

They will be clever enough to work out the the door opening device you have fitted will automatically jam the laser cams.

I remember the good old SSB CB days when the local copper had one too and would warn us all when the DTI man was coming round

Les

OllyK

That doesn't follow. He may be right about that, but just because somebody is right about one thing it doesn't make them right about anything else.

speedking

... if HMG wanted to go with the flow they could just install loads of very cheap (relative to full camera setups) radar transmitters all over the place and watch the detector equipped cars crawling along, making the roads safer, which is after all the ultimate aim These devices could be battery powered and moved frequently making the detectors next to useless anyway. No need for expensive legislation and criminal proceedings.

Patent pending.

gpssti4

iTrader: (6)

Had an interesting discussion last night about laser jammers/garage door openers - if you approaching a laser site at say 85mph, your jammer goes off and scrambles the police signal, it also gives you a warning, you slow to 60/70mph. If the police detect you have a jammer installed they may try to prosecute you for 'stopping them doing their duty'. Now here's the rub, if they can't prove you were speeding then you have not done anything wrong - and hence not interferred with their duty - catch 22 eh.

Leslie

OllyK

Yes thats true but he was pretty accurate about the other business and he seems to have some kind of inside knowledge. They have been testing the system in cars for some time too.

Les

ajm

This was the key issue with that case where a pedestrian was banned from driving for warning motorists about a speed trap. He was done for preventing a police officer from doing his duty by slowing down motorists so they couldn't get caught. In doing so they must have assumed everyone had been speeding and would have been caught if it wasn't for this bloke.

Crazy eh?

imi

Look guys...the police is out there to meet their quota. it isnt about safety and anyone with any sense would know that by now. The speed cameras are revenue generators. I fully understand the need for average speed cameras in built-up residential areas or close to schools (even more policing there) but on the motorways and dual carraigeways I tell the police and the goverment to leave us alone...(but they wont)

They know that we will carry on driving our cars as we dont really have any other alternative so we are easy picking for them.