Felix.

I watched last night the Party Political Broadcast. How are you going to cut police paperwork then...???

And where are you going to find the money to increase the police numbers by so much...??

zoog

I am an instinctive Conservative, could never vote Labour, but the current crop are truly execrable. They should have had Portillo as leader but the blue rinse brigade wouldn't have it.

Chip

Well thats quite easy really. Most police paperwork is either duplicate or not needed anyway so simply by cutting out crap like this:

Metropolitan Police officers will have to fill in a foot-long form, containing 40 separate questions, every time they stop someone in the street. It is reckoned that it will take at least seven minutes to complete the form

As for money for police numbers then dont you realiose just how much money is misdirected in this country.All it neeeds is a bit of good management.

Chip

ajm

From their site:

"Within the first day of a Conservative Government, we will announce plans to prevent police officers having to fill in a form every time they stop someone."


By not wasting it on tat like the millenium dome perhaps?

Chip

I think someone may just mention Asylum Seekers on this thread as well. Just maybe though

Chip

Leslie

Its easy, just drop the requirement for all the excess paperwork. It is only required by the control freaks in this goverment who don't appear to know how to use what they read in it anyway.

The amount of our money which is wasted by this govrnment is little short of criminal. The cost of servicing the illegal immigrants alone would provide a significant number of extra policemae for a start. The unbelievably high salaries and expense allowances of the MP's is another source. Where is the three billion for the Olympic bid going to come from? Just one or two examples to begin with! All the money wasted on the Dome-which is still costing us money. Will Wembley ever be a success, and will it be usable for athletics as well as football?

I could go on, and on! All shout and no go this lot.

Les

FrenchBoy

Whenever a politician is asked how they plan to raise money for their new innovations the answer is always the same...."Oh we'll cut down on beauracracy"

Of course.....why didn't anyone think of that before!!!????

ajm

Is not a question of it being a new idea, its a question of DOING it! Traditionally it has been easier to just put your hand out for more money rather than tackle the issue of waste. Labour can't do it, so maybe its time to let the Conservatives have another crack at it.

TelBoy

Give it to the Post Office to do.

ajm

LOL! That would be a Labour answer: move the problem elsewhere!

OllyK

Sadly they need to employ 30,000 beauraucrats to review the current system to see where cuts can be made. The end result of the report will be that they can cut the 30,000 beauraucrats they have just employed.

Leslie

Sounds like Parkinson's law to me, part of the NL bible I'd say.

Les

tiggers

Talk is cheap. No party has what it takes to sort this country out as they are only interested in their own self promotion and lining their own pockets.

Until a party makes a stand for the country and its people rather than continually indulging in point scoring politics we're doomed to a cycle of one set of career politicians after another who will change all the previous party's policies not because they are necessarily bad, but because they were introduced by the 'opposition'.

Time for a revolution or to emigrate I reckon.

tiggers.

Peanuts

iTrader: (15)

when we had Tory rule, there was joy in knowing how we were being shafted.
we could accept and deal with it.
forgetting the union bashing (oh look, there all powerfull again ) and the miners/picketting the majority of the country was finally able (as long as they could be fukcing arsed to get a job!) to own its own house.
good rule for future governments:- you want it? get of your **** and work for it.

under this new labour tosh, we havent got a clue how we are being shafted (although new ways are being discovered ie pension crisis Brown couldnt keep his sticky fingers out of my retirement)
An awfull lot of people are going to realise just how under hand and diabolical this government has been.
sadly, the true extent of mr G. Brown's meddling wont be fully understood til the current crop of teenagers tries to retire at 65!

the other point worth noting, the recent economic good feeling is on the back of a system that was set up by Tory rule, just starting to collapse now? oh, that will be Gordy and Tony then.

I hope we dont have another term, sadly I dont see where the next Govt. will be formed, Hung Parliament anyone?

warrenm2

on the point of police paperwork, my mate is a copper and he said the other day that for every 1 hour of "proper" police work he does, he then has to do 7 hours of paperwork, explaining, justifying, and covering his *** for the 1 hours works hes just done

Chip

Hey, you sounded like Prince Charles there.

Chip

tiggers

Which was easier said than done when you had 4 million unemployed, but don't let statistics get in the way of a good rose tinted spectacle viewed bit of nostalgia

tiggers.

ajm

Two issues on which we agree in as many days, and now back to business as usual I see!

Suresh

I seem to recall the Tories solving this last time they were in power, by setting up unelected quangos full of their mates in an effort to reduce burocracy and increase public accountability...



Suresh

ajm

Doesn't mean they will make the same mistake again though, does it? At least they TRIED to reduce beaurocracy. What are Labour doing about it? Labour don't even admit there IS waste!!!

tiggers

Never mind my friend. All good things have to come to an end

tiggers.

ajm

It wasn't really "good" agreeing over something.... I felt a bit dirty to be honest!

unclebuck

475,000+ new pen pushers in the civil service since they came to power for snooping into our private lives. Works out a 440 appointments per DAY. For what exactly?

This ID card scheme will cost billions. For what?

The formation of a new secret police service. Why?

Sounds more and more like a Stalinist Superstate is in the process of being created. Scrap all that for a start and put the money into front line services.

OllyK

I think that's the solution, hang the lot of them and let's have anarchy

tiggers

Well you can now feel all squeaky clean again, remember though - there's always a 'next time'

Suresh

You are correct - an unelectable party would not have the chance to make the same mistake again!

johnnie_m

Why not try privatisation and then employ eastern european workers at minimum wage.

Felix.

I don't do any paperwork at the moment which is not needed by someone. Here is an example for you.

Historically missing from homes (MFH) were sometimes not taken seriously, if it was believed they were kids playing out after school and forget to tell parents etc. Now, all missing persons are taken seriously (look at the Wells & Chapman murders - could the police get away with stating that there disappearance wasn't taken serious). So every MFH now requires a full report and risk assessment which has then got to be authorised and checked by an Inspector before circulating onto PNC. All enquiries done so far have to be included on the report and the report is updated as soon as any information is found. A handover pack is then created for each shift that comes on.

Similar reports/paperwork/enqs are done for domestic violence, crimes, RTA's etc etc.

So, which part of this paperwork can we remove....? Do we go back to not taking MFH's seriously?

There are also case files for courts which we need to do. How do we decrease that? Some have said to employ civilian staff, but it will take longer to explain to them the ins and outs of the case, that I may as well do it myself.

It sounds good on paper, but I just can't see how the Tory's can full fill this promise

Brendan Hughes

Welcome to politics!

unclebuck

Blimey a copper who isn't demoralised by New Labour's obsession with forcing them to generate endless politically correct beaurocracy. Perhaps he doesn't like being out in the cold?