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Well done Scotland for taking the steps to ban smoking in public places !



Come on London !

eClaire

Bastids

LG John

agree completely - now I have choice over whether or not I want to destroy my lungs and I chose 'no'

weapon69

Yup-hopefully they will do that here too. Nothing worse than cigarette smoke!

imlach

I'd have been happy enough with the "compromise" of smoking banned in restaurants, but I guess with so many pubs doing food, it'd have to be "food serving premises" which would be just about every pub these days anyhow!!

I suspect in 10 years time, it'll seem odd that one was once allowed to smoke in the pub - much like it is now very odd to think of people smoking on planes/offices/buses/trains etc.

eClaire

The thing that bugs me is that it is banned in all licensed premises. The idea of a a 'members only club' is pretty feasible, you can choose to go there, but they have even fcuked that one up too. Thats my money making scam out the window.

logiclee

Yep, well done Scotland.


Just have to wait until the English MP's have the ***** to do it. With the massive weight of public opinion it can't be much longer.

Cheers
Lee

eClaire

oh well, I'm off to the pub to enjoy my smokes in the comfort of a big chair and a corona and lime while i still can

moses

happy day for me

smokers should keep the cancer to themselves not pass it on to others

Jap2Scrap

Yeah, well the day everyone stops driving diesels, walking near buses, walking under pylons, operating microwaves and mobiles, eating burnt food, having bonfires, barbeques and open fires and just about every other fukcing thing that's supposed to cause cancer is the day that I'll take seriously the whining sods who target smokers as the easy option. Pah, and you lot go on about motorists being targetted. Get a grip.

davegtt

its not getting banned until spring 2006 though? thats a year and half away. why are they gonna leave it so long to implement it?

RichiW

Yup - Good on Scotland!


Come on England - fingers crossed it also happens here soon!

SCOSaltire

agree - this is great news!
roll on 2006!

a compromise would never ever have worked.
employ some barstaff who would work in the smoke?
how would that work with insurance, etc. cant see it.
ah, so employ only smokers.
so what if someone gave up smoking? sack them?

im glad that someone had the guts to do this.

as someone said - in 10 years time we will look back on it the same way as we look back at the smoking at the pictures.

im very disappointed in the Tories apposing it tho.

scoobypreza

I think its great news
I wonder if Wales will follow??

Doubt it but hope so

cath

pslewis

BRILLIANT!!

Bring it on in England and Wales

I used to smoke and know how tough it is to give up, but give up I did ......

Quite why anyone with a full set of marbles would WANT to smoke is totally beyond me, certainly a female wiff a *** 'angin out 'er gob is about as attractive as a weekend break in Fallujha!!

Come on, STOP SMOKING - you have a brain, USE IT!

Just my humble opinion as ever

Pete

LG John

Have to agree with Pete. You honestly can choose not to smoke! There is no question it isn't good for you and a lot of evidence its actually bad for you. Then there is the cost! The money you spend could be spent so much better! I just don't get it - it certainly ain't cool and a lass is INSTANTLY 50% less attractive when she lights up. Seriously smokers, think about it

Jap2Scrap

On a serious note, I wonder where the tax would be levied were everyone to suddenly give up smoking and driving non-fuel efficient cars, the two areas where tax and disgust go hand in hand. And how come no one mentions the medical side effects of drinking. Let's ban drinking in pubs! NO liver disease and no passive effects like copping a black eye off some ****-head or have aural asaault from some tanked up old **** dribbling out his over-the-top opinions as if they're the only ones that matter*.






*obviously not everyone requires alcohol to be able to do that.

pslewis

EH? I think we have ALL been DEADLY serious!!

To smoke when you know it will kill you and possibly those around you is arguably the most stupid thing you can do while still being reasonably sensible in other walks of life!

Pete

Buckrogers

Since when? Like they listened to the massive million plus demostration against the Iraq war?

Bollox to a ban. You have a smoking room and a non smoking room. If as a public house you cannot offer that then its a non smoking pub.

If its so bad for us or for the non smokers then stop fooking around and ban it full stop. No, too much taxation money to be gained from people dying. Yet they stick more non-death reducing speed cameras up. Ankers, the lot of them.

Buckrogers

Ex-smoker. The worst. You have given up well done. Now everyone else must also give up.

pslewis

A Scotsman in a pub being interviewed on TV, *** hangin' out of gob, calmly puts his lighter back on his pack of £5 **** ..... he rested it in a position that underlined some words .... those words??

SMOKING KILLS

Now, either he can't spell - or he's the village idiot!!

Pete

Buckrogers

How long did you smoke for Pete?

pslewis

Started when I was 11 - gave up when I was 40 .... seems like 29 years to me.

The damage has probably already been done to me, sadly. But I can try and save others from the most stupid habit of modern times!

When I started smoking there was no real evidence of health problems in the public domain, yes, that IS an excuse!

As clearly there is NO excuse for smoking these days ............... or is there?

I would LOVE to hear a logical reason for smoking, really I would!

Pete

Jap2Scrap

Christ Pete, who made you the voice of reason? For years the councils in England and Scotland have been raking in the revenue of hosting 20 foot billboards advertising cigarettes, not to mention the tax. I wouldn't be surprised to see those same billboards still up long after the ban is in effect. You don't have to go to the pub, anymore than I have to smoke. There are places that don't allow it and I have never complained as slowly they take over. I'm not actually bothered by the thought of a ban here but what I object to is the 'holier-than-thou' attitude of this thread. You talk about smokers as if they're a lesser being than yourself. It really makes me angry because I'm damn sure you wouldn't object to being treated by a doctor who happened to be a smoker because you figured he must be some sort of retard as he should know better.

I know that there *could* be some medical issues awaiting me because I smoke. I'm also intelligent enough to know that my likelihood of incurring cancer of the respiratory tract is increased but I also know that quitting won't reduce the chances of me getting many other kinds of cancer, some much nastier.

We all have relatives or know of people who've smoked to a ripe old age as well as those who've never touched a cigarette only to die of the big C relatively young.

Genetically my chances of developing cancer would appear to be low, indeed I cannot think of one case in the four generations of my family that I've known. That doesn't make me feel invincible but it is of some reassurance.

So my feeling is that until I choose not to smoke, I'll continue to do it. As always in a way that is reasonable towards other people, respecting their choices.

Now please stop preaching. Refrain from labelling me as some sort of retard or social misfit just because my lifestyle doesn't reflect your own.

Ray

pslewis

You WILL stop smoking in the area I may occupy if the rulers tell you to!!

You have labelled yourself as a retard by continuing to KILL yourself - its not me that is giving you that label.

I take it you CAN read the warnings that are in BIG letters on the packet?

Pete

ALi-B

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Scotland bans smoking.....

Birmingham bans Santa.....

go figure!

Jap2Scrap

I have no problem with laws Pete. If it's the law, it's the law.


Again, my issue is with your attitude - "None so pure as those purified" has never been truer. Get over yourself, no one is that much of a fascist.



Conversing with you is enough to make me want to kill myself. Smoking is my chosen weapon of suicide. I have a masochistic streak too because it's gonna take a long time.

Yes, they're in the space occupied by vague, wishy-washy "warnings" when I first started smoking nearly 20 years ago.



What's with the random capitalised WORDS? Do you think I will take you seriously if you DO that?

Buckrogers

Interesting. So from 11 to 40, your prime years in life, where you achieved most of your intellect, experience and skill to become the nuclear engineer you prescribe to be, you failed to notice that by burning some tobacco and inhaling the smoke you may be endangering your life in some way?

SCOSaltire

Jap2Scrap
pslewis is a great wind up coz he touches right at the touchy points everytime.

this time, i agree with what he is saying.

also - why go on at his 'attitude'?
have u looked at urs?
urs is the same as all smokers - have distain for all 'scabs' and avid non-smokers who speak up against smoking/for a ban.

I have had arguments with smokers lots. everytime they get on their high-horse about the same things. gotta be a reason there - and i think every reasonable person could figure it out.

i can see ur humour tho

didnt make me laugh as much as Ali tho!

Buckrogers

Just for you Pete, I'd light up and pay the fine