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11 October 2004, 01:49 PM
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Bloody hell better slow down a bit then, if there gonna be monitoring the M1
11 October 2004, 01:52 PM
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About time too - even if the pic on that article is a bit of a bum steer - looks like the inside lane there is a filter..... 
Most people are oblivious as to what they are doing even when you cut in front of them into the inside lane. Who says they're going to take notice of some signs?
Most people are oblivious as to what they are doing even when you cut in front of them into the inside lane. Who says they're going to take notice of some signs?
11 October 2004, 02:00 PM
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Most people are oblivious as to what they are doing even when you cut in front of them into the inside lane.
They still dont move over mind
11 October 2004, 02:03 PM
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Did anyone see that idiot Natasha Kerplunk on TV this morning, encouraging viewers to phone in, by asking "is it fair to persecute drivers who aren't breaking the law?"
Thick biaaaatch, she wants to get back to playing Miss Jones on "Rising Damp":
Oh, and I've said it once, and I'll say it again: the government could stop 90% of middle lane hogs at a stroke if they wanted to: just make it illegal for women to drive on motorways:
Alcazar
Thick biaaaatch, she wants to get back to playing Miss Jones on "Rising Damp"
:Oh, and I've said it once, and I'll say it again: the government could stop 90% of middle lane hogs at a stroke if they wanted to: just make it illegal for women to drive on motorways
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11 October 2004, 02:10 PM
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Have you seen the 5th gear episode titled "scared drivers"??
They have cameras in the car of a woman scared of driving on motorways. At one point she's sitting in the middle lane (doing about 45 mph) hands locked on steering wheel, and as people are passing her in the fast lane and pulling back into the middle lane she screems:
"look at them all, they are all changing lanes all the time, what are they doing!
Bring in compulsory M-way learning!!!
Matt
They have cameras in the car of a woman scared of driving on motorways. At one point she's sitting in the middle lane (doing about 45 mph) hands locked on steering wheel, and as people are passing her in the fast lane and pulling back into the middle lane she screems:
"look at them all, they are all changing lanes all the time, what are they doing!
Bring in compulsory M-way learning!!!
Matt
11 October 2004, 02:23 PM
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Why would you be driving behind them? You can undertake if you do not break the speed limit and your lane is travelling faster than an outer one.
Thought everyone knew that now! (Even me, a silly woman!)
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11 October 2004, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Clarebabes
You can undertake if you do not break the speed limit and your lane is travelling faster than an outer one.
11 October 2004, 02:29 PM
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.....what about the ones that hog the outside lane no matter what?
They are equally to blame. Once there is a stream of hogs the folks that have moved over into either of the other two lanes are trapped!
They are equally to blame. Once there is a stream of hogs the folks that have moved over into either of the other two lanes are trapped!
11 October 2004, 02:29 PM
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Oooooh don't even start me on middle lane hoggers, I feking hate them with a passion 
If I go past one on my bike on a quiet piece of motorway i'll pull out from lane 1 have to go to lane 3 and then back to lane 1 once past and as I go past I hand signal to get out the fecking way 
and still they sit there dreaming away pootling along at 60mph in lane 2 They really haven't got a clue and as for not breaking the law Ms Kerplunkski how about having them done for not driving with due care and attention as they haven't moved over when another vehicle has approached them Who's the other stupid bint on telly who is against bikers and complains about them filtering and making her jump? She needs shooting too, stupid moo.
If I go past one on my bike on a quiet piece of motorway i'll pull out from lane 1 have to go to lane 3 and then back to lane 1 once past and as I go past I hand signal to get out the fecking way and still they sit there dreaming away pootling along at 60mph in lane 2 They really haven't got a clue and as for not breaking the law Ms Kerplunkski how about having them done for not driving with due care and attention as they haven't moved over when another vehicle has approached them Who's the other stupid bint on telly who is against bikers and complains about them filtering and making her jump? She needs shooting too, stupid moo.
11 October 2004, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Clarebabes
Why would you be driving behind them? You can undertake if you do not break the speed limit and your lane is travelling faster than an outer one.
Thought everyone knew that now! (Even me, a silly woman!)
Thought everyone knew that now! (Even me, a silly woman!)
errrr what?
since when is this written in the highway code?
I must confess I haven't read it recently, but you are only ever allowed to overtake if you don't break the speed limit, so by your reckoning undertaking is always permissible.
I was under the impression that undertaking was allowed in the event that the entire outer lane is moving slower by virtue of some kind of traffic restriction.
If an individual is choosing to cruise in the wrong lane slower than they could be, you have to overtake them if there are sufficient lanes available, you are not allowed to undertake them.
11 October 2004, 02:53 PM
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These signs will only work if they're backed up by a bank of 30mm Aden canons or long range CO2 lasers that'll vaporise any tw@t who doesn't comply with the instruction within 0.01 seconds.
Cheers
Kav
Cheers
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11 October 2004, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam M
errrr what?
since when is this written in the highway code?
I must confess I haven't read it recently, but you are only ever allowed to overtake if you don't break the speed limit, so by your reckoning undertaking is always permissible.
I was under the impression that undertaking was allowed in the event that the entire outer lane is moving slower by virtue of some kind of traffic restriction.
If an individual is choosing to cruise in the wrong lane slower than they could be, you have to overtake them if there are sufficient lanes available, you are not allowed to undertake them.
since when is this written in the highway code?
I must confess I haven't read it recently, but you are only ever allowed to overtake if you don't break the speed limit, so by your reckoning undertaking is always permissible.
I was under the impression that undertaking was allowed in the event that the entire outer lane is moving slower by virtue of some kind of traffic restriction.
If an individual is choosing to cruise in the wrong lane slower than they could be, you have to overtake them if there are sufficient lanes available, you are not allowed to undertake them.
11 October 2004, 02:56 PM
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Fast Bloke is the tops!
Originally Posted by Adam M
errrr what?
since when is this written in the highway code?
I must confess I haven't read it recently, but you are only ever allowed to overtake if you don't break the speed limit, so by your reckoning undertaking is always permissible.
I was under the impression that undertaking was allowed in the event that the entire outer lane is moving slower by virtue of some kind of traffic restriction.
If an individual is choosing to cruise in the wrong lane slower than they could be, you have to overtake them if there are sufficient lanes available, you are not allowed to undertake them.
since when is this written in the highway code?
I must confess I haven't read it recently, but you are only ever allowed to overtake if you don't break the speed limit, so by your reckoning undertaking is always permissible.
I was under the impression that undertaking was allowed in the event that the entire outer lane is moving slower by virtue of some kind of traffic restriction.
If an individual is choosing to cruise in the wrong lane slower than they could be, you have to overtake them if there are sufficient lanes available, you are not allowed to undertake them.
11 October 2004, 03:00 PM
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Why would you be driving behind them? You can undertake if you do not break the speed limit and your lane is travelling faster than an outer one.
Thought everyone knew that now! (Even me, a silly woman!)
Thought everyone knew that now! (Even me, a silly woman!)
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11 October 2004, 03:04 PM
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Do not overtake unless you are sure it is safe to do so.
Overtake only on the right. You should
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
Overtake only on the right. You should
- check your mirrors
- take time to judge the speeds correctly
- make sure that the lane you will be joining is sufficiently clear ahead and behind
- take a quick sideways glance into the blind spot area to verify the position of a vehicle that may have disappeared from your view in the mirror
- remember that traffic may be coming up behind you very quickly. Check your mirrors carefully. When it is safe to do so, signal in plenty of time, then move out
- ensure you do not cut in on the vehicle you have overtaken
- be especially careful at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance.
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
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11 October 2004, 03:06 PM
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11 October 2004, 03:10 PM
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Thanks Alcazar.
it seems that the crucial point in your green statement is the "during congested conditions" clause.
Just because someone is driving fast enough for you does not allow you to catch up with them and overtake them on the left simply because they are driving poorly, you should over take them.
it seems that the crucial point in your green statement is the "during congested conditions" clause.
Just because someone is driving fast enough for you does not allow you to catch up with them and overtake them on the left simply because they are driving poorly, you should over take them.
11 October 2004, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam M
it seems that the crucial point in your green statement is the "during congested conditions" clause.
11 October 2004, 03:18 PM
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Yes - but if the outside lane is full of people who can't get in the middle lane to overtake the people that should be on the inside lane cos it's full of people who think the inside lane is for lorrys, then if the inside lane is clear and you happened to be travelling in it, it would be perfectly legal to "undertake" (and give them a friendly "gesture" as well of course)