davyboy

Whats with people saying the words, particularly those black music artists, and dence footballers.

Like - li gh

Right - Ri gh

Might - Mi gh

You'd have to say it to yourself a few times before you can say the "gh" correctly, those who are a little more "street" will have no problems. Of course these words are backed up with "naa a min" and "yu no" every 3rd word too.

I am sure you get my drift.

SPEAK PROPERLY YOU THICK CRETINS!

Ri gh, tha sme dun. La ughs

ajm

I agree, and what is more concerning is that I have noticed there are some children's TV presenters on the weekend speaking like this! They are doing their bit towards the national chav-isation of young people. Being able to communicate without b*stardising the English language is no longer a prerequisite for television presenters it seems.

Gutmann pug

I kent understand it myself

AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

That's "dense", of course

What upsets me is the use of "could of", "might of" and so on, by far more people than I would ever have expected. Maybe the bbs should have some sort of word substitution filter to fix this mistake automatically?

ps. better still would be to refuse the post entirely and insist it be corrected manually... Scoobynet, entertaining and educational

Iwan

The one that really winds me up is when they say "aks" instead of "ask", or "aksed" instead of "asked". For example "did you do what i aksed you to do maaan?".

WTF is that about, idiots...

Senior_AP

Ms. Dynamite. Listen to her talk, classic example of Davyboys point.

ar'm li gh ri gh.

CraigH

you know what I mean......

No - speak in fvcking english and I might get it

Senior_AP

"Street talk" can sound cool though......I give you Snoop:

"Fo' shizzle ... o' no' fo' shizzle? Dat be the quizzle, my south-central British nizzle."

BlkKnight

The English language is a living and breathing thing, constantly changing over time.

Is it your failure to adapt to the new form of the language that is causing you difficulties?

For a group of people into technology & development, you are very reluctant to change.

Tiggs

"Whats with people saying the words, particularly those black music artists"

lol, i work in Henley-on-Thames....yet some days i dont even have to leave my pc to feel like im there already.

Dunk

iTrader: (1)

Aren't the police looking younger these days ?

D

brickboy

Innit

ajm

One could understand changes made to a language in order to improve communication, however what these oiks are doing is malforming the language, presumably to cut-out people who aren't in their "hood" or "gang" or whatever they call themselves by making their spoken word all but unintelligable to civilised people.

It is not a "new form" of the language, it is horrible and uneccessary colloquialism that has a negative impact upon communication between generations and societies and they should pack it in before they end up speaking a different language entirely!

CraigH

Cap fit then?
It's no more a "new form" of the language than stealing cars is a new form of public transport.

CraigH

That's what I meant ajm

Senior_AP

He's on a wind up, ignore him.

Just because everybody is lowering their standards doesn't mean we should lower ours eh.

astraboy

I believe its crosssectional in society as a whole. In other words, everybody is doing it. My mate had a run in with some crack heads up Kings Cross way. They were in no position on enforce their threats as they were too wasted and emaciated to inflict injuries, but their insistance on talking like AMERICAN crack heads is what my friend found funny.
"Eh muthafuka! Ay, I cut 'choo up, muthafuka!"
Bad enough being a crackhead, but a crackhead with bad diction really is unforgivable
astraboy.

BlkKnight

Surely it's not a case of lowering standards? It's a being unwilling to acknowledge the new form of the English language - which is becoming ever more commonplace.

At some point the "proper" english speakers will become the minority.

CraigH

It's not a new form of the English language - it's cr4p talk from impressionables.

Shows like Ali G/Bo Selecta etc become part of the lingo temporarily until the next "cult" show comes along.

If this kind of talk does become THE english language, hopefully I'll either be dead by then or guns will be legal.

Dazza01

Check it out...............

no what i mean, at the end of every sentence.................

Senior_AP

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3...ynamite300.jpg

innit

Leslie

Nothing wrong with regional accents and I would not like to see those disappear. I do dislike the murdering of the language as was said. Its just a lazy way to speak and it sounds terrible. The so called "Estuary accent" is one of the worst with the dropping of T wherever possible and replacing it with a gutteral grunting noise. It became a bit of a fashion to speak like it and that is why we hear it on television particularly as was mentioned, children's programme presenters. The television producers should be ashamed of that.

What really got me going was when PSL's and Paulr's hero started trying to talk like it in a cheap attempt at popularity. They'll try anything these politicians! At least I found that laughable if a bit difficult to believe. So transparent!

To pronounce the words properly does not take so much extra effort and shows a bit of pride in our language. Its nothing to do with affecting to be upper class either.

Les

akshay67

I think this has happened already. I'm quite shocked at how many ordinary English folk (i.e. them (sic) ones not following any street culture) make slip-ups in there (sic) grammer.

akshay67

The people best at 'crap street speak' seem to drive around in cars with body kits, tinted windows, spoilers and loud exhausts!

Kyl3cook

I also notice that some of the kids TV presenters are talking all blingified! There was a programme on at the weekend with two kids presenting...I'm guessing about 14 years old, and both were talking with very poor diction. The little girl especially was all 'mystique'! Plus I hate when people adapt these into text writing (e.g. on these types of forums) dat is da best fing eva! it's disgraceful.

astraboy

I agree on that one, I particularly hate the term "Dat" I always imagine whoever says it is a wonky hatted, blinged up, velour trackie wearing Charva.

astraboy.

The Zohan

Whilst i understand a language needs to evolve i feel the English language is being beaten into submission and stangled by Chavs and the 'street speak'

ajm

Of course it's a drop in standards. They are attempting to emulate the way people speak in ghettos. People in ghettos speak like that because they have had no access to proper education and have been exposed to a culture that teaches them that vulgarity and profanity to appear "hard" or intimidating is acceptable.

Is the image of an average Briton as a gold chain wielding, puffer jacket clad "gangsta" pseudo-limping down the street talking gibberish interspersed with words like "yo, innit, muthaf*cka" one you would admit to being an improvement, let alone be proud enough to call "new English"???

Jerome

Oi aint gort nuffink ta saay on vis.

Except that even Newsreaders here (in Canada) can't speak English properly. I'm horrified at some of the stuff they say. It's the way the UK will go eventually, I fear.

Markus

You're correct about the newsreaders. There's also some DJ, can't remember the station, but he's not english, but tries to speak as though he is. I think he might be south african, so that could possibly explain it.