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Old 29 September 2004, 10:29 AM
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Anyone know much about Kazakhstan ?

Looks like I'm off there soon to do some consultancy, so any info would be very welcome

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Old 29 September 2004, 10:30 AM
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Oil, steroids, Oil.
Old 29 September 2004, 10:32 AM
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Oh and if you are a worrier don't go to http://www.kazakhstan.com/
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We hunt bears, for fun.
Old 29 September 2004, 10:34 AM
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Well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad

What about food, is there anything to eat except horse sausage ?
Old 29 September 2004, 10:37 AM
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You can get anything to eat - their are over 100 different ethnic groups living in Afganistan, So indian food, vegetarian etc.


Or you could see it like this woman

SAY NEIGH TO THAT

By NADIA WHITE

The Casper Star-Tribune, Wyoming, January 1, 2003

Let me confess right up front: My vegetarian habits are on hold.

Take that one more step: I spent most of November eating horse meat, drinking mare's milk and marveling at the social niceties involved in serving baked sheep's head.

I am just back from Kazakhstan, where machismo is measured by how much meat one can eat and hospitality in how much a guest is fed. Suffice it to say, the Kazakhs are extraordinary hosts and I am eating more macho than I used to.

During a month in the Central Asian nation, numerous table-filling feasts were spread before me. A spyglass across time, they recall the days when a guest who arrived at a nomad's yurt would have traveled very, very far, across the steppe, with little in the way of clothing or fine food.

Often, I was given a velvety tunic or overcoat decorated with traditional swirled ram's horn designs in gold braid and beads and seated near the head of a long dining table.

Salads took the form of grated beets and carrots blended with light sour cream, walnuts and shaved horse meat.

Appetizers were thinly sliced horse meat sausage, sheep intestines and cheeses.

There were many other side dishes served, but the centerpiece of the meal was a huge platter or two of the national dish, besparmak.

Besparmak is huge chunks of horse meat, boiled on the bone and served with a broth on top of wide doughy noodles. The word means "five fingers" and it is still OK to just reach out and grab a chunk of meat and noodle and pop it into your mouth.

Horse meat tastes, well, like meat. I liked it. It was a little sweeter than lamb or beef, and had a very nice texture. It wasn't gristly or tough or stringing. But it was horse. I really don't know why we don't eat horses, but it is a little like eating dog. It's got a name and sometimes comes when you call it.

It made a big difference to me that some horses are raised to be eaten and some are raised to be ridden. I went to a feedlot and met some future dinner. I hate to say this: They were soooo cute.

A little cowlike, the eating horses were fat and fluffy from living outside and not running around much and they followed me around their corral as though I might be delivering them some food. They let me hug them.

Let's move on.

Occasionally, a feast was crowned with the arrival of a baked sheep's head, which was laid at my place, staring up at me. Fortunately, this item was not so much for eating as it was for serving. I learned to cut a symbolic little piece off, then pass the whole thing on to an honored person more familiar with tradition than I.

Here is how to serve a sheep's head:

-- Cut off an ear and give it to the youngest person so they listen to their elders and learn well.

-- Cut a piece from near the eye and give it to a person who is important to you so they will be attentive.

Cut a piece from the forehead and give it to someone with a challenge to help them be smart about it.

Gastronomically, I thought the shift from eating mostly vegetables to eating mostly meat would be tough on the gut. It wasn't. I attribute this to the addition of a great deal of cognac to my diet.

That, and the leisurely pace, aided digestion. Many a feast was topped off with a truly wonderful round of songs.

So I hope your New Year's celebration was tempered with song, honored with tradition and celebrated with new and old friends. Sally Ann will be back next week with more tales of the real food editor.

Nadia White is the state editor for the Star-Tribune
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So, horse tikka dhansak it it then
Old 29 September 2004, 10:53 AM
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Why not ask a native? click
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What you won't see:

Old 29 September 2004, 11:23 AM
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Thanks Guy

No Hooters, no consultancy

I got as far as 'baked sheeps head' in that article, before calling my Director

Any country that allows itself to be used as a Russian nuclear testing zone is off of my holiday destination list
Old 29 September 2004, 11:58 AM
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Have you seen the size of Kazakhstan? It's like protesting that there was an accident at Sellafield so you don't want to go to Geneva.

Almaty is not so bad (apparently - never been there), but Akmola, or whatever it's called this week - new official capital for the last few years, middle of nowhere - is reputedly an armpit.

How long are (were?) you proposed to go for? Week, month, year?
Old 29 September 2004, 12:27 PM
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First on the packing list would be a bullet proof vest and a lockable kevlar wallet.

Lol.

good luck.
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Brendan - Only for a few days, visiting certain oil companies.
Old 29 September 2004, 04:27 PM
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Why not go then? Open your eyes to different cultures
Old 29 September 2004, 09:28 PM
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i always thought kazhakstan was a muslim country or am i getting mixed up with azerbaijan
Old 29 September 2004, 09:57 PM
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I have a mate who used to work as a locksmith on one of the chevron Oil fields- he did approx six weeks on / six weeks off. Started to go slightly mad after about 4 weeks there. Was out there for many years.

Will see if I can get him to contribute to the thread......
Old 29 September 2004, 10:46 PM
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"First on the packing list would be a bullet proof vest and a lockable kevlar wallet.

Lol."

Why is my wife in town ?
Old 29 September 2004, 10:53 PM
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is'nt that where borats from?

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