tiggers

Was round at a mate's fixing his computer last night and whilst performing hardware surgery on their dining room table his wife sat down to watch Phil Collins - But Seriously Live (or something like that anyway).

The DVD is a film of one of his concerts and I can honestly say it's a long time since I've seen/heard something so bad. He struts around the stage trying to act at least 10 years younger than he actually is wearing a lilac suit (still thinks he's in Miami Vice perhaps??) perspiring badly under the arms - very 'Rock Star' - NOT!! Then there's the fact that every single backing singer he uses in the concert is a way better singer than he is and it really shows.

The highlights are of course the songs themselves - I had forgotten just what over commercialised turgid drivel this guy pumped out. His massacring of a Motown classic ought to be a hanging offence and his cringeworthy song about racsim (Colour I think it's called - how original ) is excruciating.

The best though has to be 'Another Day in Paradise' - a song about the plight of the homeless - makes you want to be sick not because of the subject matter, but because it feels so like someone desperately trying to appear like they have a social conscience. Bear in mind that this is the guy who threatened to leave the country in 1997 if Labour came to power (the hope that he would do so probably helped contribute to their landslide victory ) - makes the social conscience bit seem all the less plausible.

Come to think of it does anyone know if he actually did emigrate and if so whether it was down to Labour getting in - probably not as it's just one of those stupid things some people say whenever we get an election approaching.

Buzzer

You forgot to add that he was the demise of Genesis with his sh1te voice. He should of stuck to his drums and let Peter Gabriel carry on writing and singing

bloke

Is that good or bad?

tiggers

Too right - sorry didn't think most on here would remember that Peter Gabriel was the original lead singer and creative 'tour de force' behind Genesis.

Peter Gabriel - now there's a man with a real social conscience and a great musician/songwriter too.

Ubik

PMSL. Frightening that theres more than one fan in the UK, a friend at work thinks hes super. Strewth!

tiggers

Maybe you work with my mate's wife - see there is only one fan after all

Jay m A

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I hate Phil Collins music with a passion. I blame the parents

I'm sure my daughter will hate US garage (no, not that garage, the garage before that ), progressive hard house and anything involving Norman Jay, but such is life

*Sonic*

I agree too about the Gabriel early Genesis stuff

got em on Vinyl

including a mispressing of Foxtrot, which has basically 2 A sides, but the grooves for the B side are correct for the tunes that should be there, but they are the A-side tunes !!

Ubik

My friend is overseas at the moment...so it looks like there more than we suspected.

*Sonic*

When I first read this thread, i thought it was

Phil Colling was round at a mates house fixing a computer.....

and my first thoughts were, 'at least he aint singing anymore'

tiggers

Believe you me he wasn't singing (in the true sense of the term) on that DVD

gsm1

Now I know it's not only my brother that hates Phil Collins with a passion (besides his ex-wife of course).

*Sonic*

LOL

Maybe thats why the DVD is called But Seriously....

they missed off Phil Collins singing to that title

drumsterphil

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Well I think he's pretty good! (runs for cover............)

As a teenager of the 80's my first introduction to Genesis was 'Invisible Touch' which I still rate as one of my fave albums. PC epitomises the 80's - if you weren't then then you might not appreciate what it was like (rather like I don't understand the fascination over the Beatles cos I wasn't there when it was all happening).

Solo release wise - he has soooo much more soul in his voice than any of these RnB, Soul 'divas' today (and he ain't a bad drummer either). Listen to 'Long long way to go' and tell me you don't feel the slightest bit moved.

Phil

STi-Frenchie

Just to confirm - the fat little bugger with a ton of dosh made from whining on and on and on and on about his divorce...lives in a large house on the shores of Lac Leman (otherwise known as Lake Geneva).

Can someone come and take him back to the UK please ? We're done with him. Thanks in advance.

Pastor

Isn't he knocking off some young girl as well. Dirty old man as well as a master of the "craprock" genre.

tiggers

I was very much there for the 80's and love some of the music from that decade, but Phil Collins music was always at best commercial, at worst cynical and as for his voice - a grating whine as far as I am concerned - can you have a soulful grating whine?

As for Genesis the Invisible Touch album is an over commercialised cliched mess - listen to Selling England by the Pound or The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway to hear real masterpieces from this once great band. Plus you get Gabriel's pasionate and controlled voice rather then the 80's whiny rock vocal of Collins.

Sure he's a good drummer, but why like other drummers doesn't he just keep his mouth shut and drum?

tiggers

So he did emigrate then? Anyone know when he left and what his reasons were?

As for having him back - no way - you can keep him

Scoobychick

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I know exactly what garage you mean, the real stuff, none of this modern crap

Anyway back to Phil Collins, he's sh1te..

Tiggs

ohhhh....its that dirty word on SN again.......commercial!

cant have such a bunch of wild maverics doing their own thang their way liking anything that the majority likes.....nooooooo...toooo cooool for that!

Dr Hu

awww come on - 'against all odds' is a pretty good choon...... plus it has a great bit of drumming in it too - 2 for the price of one!

the moose

Loved that craaazy song of his about the US Army guy. Mind you, could never see what Phil Silvers had to do with South Africa.

davegtt

I quite like his music tbh dont shoot me got the greatest hits album (no there is more than 1 song on it honest ) think its quite cool to chill out to if im doing any cooking or something

Tiggs

hope your not using a jamie olvier recipe? toooo comercial!

the moose

(Incidentally, TelBoy will probably be along in a bit to tell us that the drumming and production on In The Air Tonight is top-notch.)

davegtt

lol... nar who needs a cook book. all home made ideas

tiggers

OK Tiggs, instead of commercial try bland, simplistic, formulaic, grating ****e from a guy pretending to care about the rest of the world when all he really cares about is himself and his bank balance.

tiggers

And so it may be, but unfortunately the song and the way it's sung isn't

Pbr

Most of todays top 40?

tiggers

So he was ahead of his time