Council Tax on the up
19 July 2004, 08:22 PM
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i've heard that they want to restructure the banding system so all of us c**ts who live in london will be subsidising the industrial northern wastelands (ie watford 
) even more than we do already.
) even more than we do already.
19 July 2004, 09:26 PM
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Nope it's true.. based on your house value, under £140k and your tax goes down.. above that it's banded and they are talking a minimum of triple existing amounts.
Paying £1000 now - £3000+ depending on value of your house.
It' shocking
Paying £1000 now - £3000+ depending on value of your house.
It' shocking
19 July 2004, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ProperCharlie
...so all of us c**ts who live in london will be subsidising the industrial northern wastelands (ie watford ) even more than we do already.
) even more than we do already.I think here in Edinburgh, we're amongst the highest....so less of your subsidy nonsense
19 July 2004, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Is it not the case that some boroughs of London have the lowest council tax in the land????
I think here in Edinburgh, we're amongst the highest....so less of your subsidy nonsense
I think here in Edinburgh, we're amongst the highest....so less of your subsidy nonsense
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19 July 2004, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Is it not the case that some boroughs of London have the lowest council tax in the land????
I think here in Edinburgh, we're amongst the highest....so less of your subsidy nonsense
I think here in Edinburgh, we're amongst the highest....so less of your subsidy nonsense
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19 July 2004, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ProperCharlie
yes but we've got more people and less space. the reason your council tax is so high is that you have to subsidise people like M... Ma.... no i won't say it, who live in the *rse end of nowhere and cost a fortune to deliver services to.
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19 July 2004, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ProperCharlie
it must be down to the cost of handing out methadone to all the smackheads you keep up your way.)
Not so.
19 July 2004, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
I think here in Edinburgh, we're amongst the highest....so less of your subsidy nonsense
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19 July 2004, 10:04 PM
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One reason why Westminster (and places like) have low council tax is because it has a high proportion of rich people. Rich people generally don't require extensive public services. Street crime is lower, streets aren't made dirty as people in 'nice' areas want to keep it that way etc. These areas are also ususally Tory run rather than labour and are normally much more efficiently run thus better value for your council tax pound. I could go on.
Obviously this isn't the whole story as the tax in these areas have been going up. Mainly as a labour mayor has decided to cut the amount of money these areas get from central resources so they have to whack up the tax to make up the shortfall., political as much as anything I suspect by Ken there..
Obviously this isn't the whole story as the tax in these areas have been going up. Mainly as a labour mayor has decided to cut the amount of money these areas get from central resources so they have to whack up the tax to make up the shortfall., political as much as anything I suspect by Ken there..
19 July 2004, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Well you voted to control your own taxes in Scotland didnt you
Oh, and income tax is still governed by the UK Goverment - personal taxation is NOT independently goverened in Scotland.
19 July 2004, 10:14 PM
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House prices go through the roof. Council Tax is based on house value = Council Tax goes through the roof also.
LOL - you've gotta admire this government. We are getting ripped off at every level by them, yet the idiots still believe they've never had it so good.
Get more credit. You'll be fine.... Drive your gas guzzling 4x4 through the Congestion Zone and stop moaning. PMSL at those chimps
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LOL - you've gotta admire this government. We are getting ripped off at every level by them, yet the idiots still believe they've never had it so good.
Get more credit. You'll be fine.... Drive your gas guzzling 4x4 through the Congestion Zone and stop moaning. PMSL at those chimps
"I'm forcing my husband to buy me one of these. I told him if he refuses I'll divorce him and take *everything*"
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19 July 2004, 10:36 PM
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IMO, its a clever way to stem house price inflation, without effecting everything else.
People won't want to pay 600k for a house when they have to pay 4000+ in tax. House prices are forced down, as the TCOO is higher, and unaffordable.
Not many people 'have' to live in a 600k house TBH - its through choice. If you choose to live in a house this big for whatever reason, so be it.
OTOH, I think the government are a little too socialist in their ways. If everyone paid the same tax, it would give people incentive to put a bit more elbow grease in, and f*ckin get a job. Its a sh*t state of affairs when my wife and I can't even afford a 2bed flat where we live, even though we earn 35k combined. Two jobs for me as well, just to rent
If we had that extra £300 a month instead of all the tax we pay, we probably would be a damn sight more comfortable.
You DONT need qualifications to get a job, you need ambition and hard work. Sorely lacking by the look of things. When 6/8 people working in a service Environment are immigrant labour, we know the jobs are potentially available. (I know this is true, I see it every night!)
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People won't want to pay 600k for a house when they have to pay 4000+ in tax. House prices are forced down, as the TCOO is higher, and unaffordable.
Not many people 'have' to live in a 600k house TBH - its through choice. If you choose to live in a house this big for whatever reason, so be it.
OTOH, I think the government are a little too socialist in their ways. If everyone paid the same tax, it would give people incentive to put a bit more elbow grease in, and f*ckin get a job. Its a sh*t state of affairs when my wife and I can't even afford a 2bed flat where we live, even though we earn 35k combined. Two jobs for me as well, just to rent
If we had that extra £300 a month instead of all the tax we pay, we probably would be a damn sight more comfortable.You DONT need qualifications to get a job, you need ambition and hard work. Sorely lacking by the look of things. When 6/8 people working in a service Environment are immigrant labour, we know the jobs are potentially available. (I know this is true, I see it every night!)
Damian
19 July 2004, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by damian666
Its a sh*t state of affairs when my wife and I can't even afford a 2bed flat where we live, even though we earn 35k combined. Two jobs for me as well, just to rent
It's called "climbing the ladder" - you can't have it all today. Everyone has to start somewhere....
19 July 2004, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
It's called "climbing the ladder" - you can't have it all today. Everyone has to start somewhere....
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19 July 2004, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
No, it's called "borrowing more money". Or 'the illusion of success' as it could be seen. Now you have a better credit rating (being a home owner and all) you are merely deeper in debt.
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19 July 2004, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
That's one way of looking at it, but as I always say, it's a means to an end. Debt free living in a number of years.
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19 July 2004, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Better prey there's not a recession then. If you are living above your means then all your hopes and dreams will turn to dust.
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My primary residence has a nice low LTV now
19 July 2004, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Bring the recession on
Think of all the bargin priced X5's there will be for sale. hmmm... I always wanted one of those (so I loook really cool in my Gucci sunwear, like Chav Spice)... NOT.
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20 July 2004, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
One reason why Westminster (and places like) have low council tax is because it has a high proportion of rich people. Rich people generally don't require extensive public services. Street crime is lower, streets aren't made dirty as people in 'nice' areas want to keep it that way etc.
Maybe worh putting the council tax up to clean the place up a bit.
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