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Old 26 May 2004, 11:38 PM
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Question drinking and push bikes?

a group of friends are going on a sponsered bike ride for a play school, that one of the lads partner works for, as its self funded. the thing is, it incoperates a couple of pubs on the way. are you subject to the same alchaol levels as you would be in a car? and if so what would happen if you were stoped and breath tested, would your car licence be in danger? basicly are you allowd to drink and ride

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Old 26 May 2004, 11:49 PM
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AFAIK, it is technically possible to get points on your driving licence IF you have a driving licence....and are cycling on the public highway....
Old 27 May 2004, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by imlach
AFAIK, it is technically possible to get points on your driving licence IF you have a driving licence....and are cycling on the public highway....
Oops !
Old 27 May 2004, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by imlach
AFAIK, it is technically possible to get points on your driving licence IF you have a driving licence....and are cycling on the public highway....
Interesting thought.... If so, that means that someone with a driving licence will be punished differently from someone without, for an offence that doesn't relate to a motor vehicle.

Is this permissible? I'm not really into road traffic law.....
Old 27 May 2004, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Harry_Boy
Interesting thought.... If so, that means that someone with a driving licence will be punished differently from someone without, for an offence that doesn't relate to a motor vehicle.

Is this permissible? I'm not really into road traffic law.....
As I understand it, I think if you DON'T have a driving licence, you get some kind of points which WOULD apply should you apply for a driving licence....
Old 27 May 2004, 10:41 AM
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Not sure they would charge you though. A mate of mine got stopped on his bike when he was so pissed that he could barely ride at all.
The copper just laughed at him and told him to push it home.
Old 27 May 2004, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ringpeas
Not sure they would charge you though. A mate of mine got stopped on his bike when he was so pissed that he could barely ride at all.
The copper just laughed at him and told him to push it home.
As I said, technically they could if they really wanted to.....but yes, imagine it would be rare.

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Old 27 May 2004, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by imlach
As I said, technically they could if they really wanted to.....but yes, imagine it would be rare.

OK not saying you are wrong but on what basis please? What is this technicality? DL (some one who cycles down the pub and may have "one over the odds").
Old 27 May 2004, 11:03 AM
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Got this from a lawyer mate of mine:

Cyclists who like an occasional drink should be aware that it is on offence to ride a bicycle (or tricycle) on a road or other public place whilst unfit through drink or drugs.

But, the police have no powers to breathalyze you or to take a blood or urine sample. It follows that refusal to give such samples is not an offence.

The police have to fall back on the old-fashioned tests, such as making you walk a straight line. They have to prove that you are incapable of having proper control.

The offence is punishable by a fine up to £1,000.

There is no truth in the urban myth that they can dock points on your driving licence, should you have one.
Old 27 May 2004, 11:15 AM
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Road Traffic Act 1988

Drunk in charge of a motor vehicle

Riding a bicycle while unfit through drink

To drive or attempt to drive a motor vehicle after consuming so much alcohol that the proportion of it in the breath, blood or urine exceeds the prescribed limit

Causing death by dangerous driving while under the influence of drink

Breath tests and provision of specimens
Old 27 May 2004, 11:17 AM
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Cycling when under influence of drink or drugs.


********30.—(1)*A person who, when riding a cycle on a road or other public place, is unfit to ride through drink or drugs (that is to say, is under the influence of drink or a drug to such an extent as to be incapable of having proper control of the cycle) is guilty of an offence.

****(2)*In Scotland a constable may arrest without warrant a person committing an offence under this section.

****(3)*In this section "road" includes a bridleway.
Old 27 May 2004, 11:17 AM
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So, yes, looks like I've been fooled by an urban myth on the driving licence front
Old 27 May 2004, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Road Traffic Act 1988
Riding a bicycle while unfit through drink
tax disk on motorcycle says "Bicycle" so presumably this referes to motorbikes - not pushbikes.
Old 27 May 2004, 11:20 AM
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On an unrelated front, didn't realise it was an offence to not have a dog on a lead on a public highway...

Control of dogs on roads.


********27.—(1)*A person who causes or permits a dog to be on a designated road without the dog being held on a lead is guilty of an offence.
Old 27 May 2004, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jjones
tax disk on motorcycle says "Bicycle" so presumably this referes to motorbikes - not pushbikes.
I don't think so - look here and it refers to motorcycles in a separate section...

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988...80052_en_1.htm

and here..

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988...n_2.htm#mdiv30
Old 27 May 2004, 11:24 AM
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you can also get done for being p*ssed in control of a pushchair!!!!
Old 27 May 2004, 11:50 AM
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and wheelchair.
Old 27 May 2004, 12:11 PM
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Main deterent for me is grazing all the skin of my knuckles and losing my sunglasses within 3 minutes. Now I ride on grass on the way back
Old 27 May 2004, 12:11 PM
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Ridden my bike many a time completely pissed. Fell off twice as well Smashed watch one occasion, smashed knee the other (tried to pull a wheelie and fell off the back). oops
Old 27 May 2004, 01:19 PM
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I'll get the dog to pull me back on a tricycle - make sure he doesn't have a drink though
Old 27 May 2004, 01:36 PM
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I got stopped twice on my pushbike about 10 years ago and cautioned for what they said riding in a reckless and dangerous manner, I was speeding in a 30mph zone! First time 49mph second time 56mph within half a mile of each other on different days.
Have to say it didn't stop me going fast.

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Old 27 May 2004, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobypreza
I got stopped twice on my pushbike about 10 years ago and cautioned for what they said riding in a reckless and dangerous manner, I was speeding in a 30mph zone! First time 49mph second time 56mph within half a mile of each other on different days.
Have to say it didn't stop me going fast.

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Seriously impressive speeds. How on earth did you manage 56mph?
Old 27 May 2004, 01:47 PM
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56mph on a bike is no problem on a serious downhill stretch.
Old 27 May 2004, 02:02 PM
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Most i've done is 39mph down a big hill without a helmet - bloody scary
Old 27 May 2004, 02:07 PM
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The problem with cycling pissed is that you develop the mind of Evil Kinevil and the co-ordination of a circus clown... bad combo. I once woke someone up by crashing into their front door... looked up to see a bemused geezer asking me if I was ok... cue frantic checking of bike in the usual macho manner. Didn't notice the gravel embedded in my skin until I got in the shower next morning.

Concentrate on going in a straight line and you'll be ok.

56mph! shocker!
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I remember a couple of years back walking back from my local and Pikey Ron had left a minute before, well pis,sed, wheeling his bike before he got on and promptly tipped into the ditch. I caught up and tried to help him up. Trouble was he thought I was trying to mug him and had a go before running/staggering off! A week later his sister turned up looking for his bike which I had taken back to the pub. Apparently Ron had gone on to another couple of pubs, fallen over again and ended up in hospital with cracked ribs - all my fault, of course
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so it sounds like 6 or 7 pints should be ok. apparently i don't sound or act that pi$$ed when i've had a skinfull, well maybe a little . i've found out that one of the lads thats coming is a copper but he won't be drinking so he says...

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