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Old 15 April 2004, 04:11 PM
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Default 80-90 in a 40 limit-whats the damage??!

'bro got caught at the weekend.......overtaking a line of traffic at the time..

Will say it wasnt in a built up area, type 40 limit, lots of animals wandering across the road at times,hence the lower limit(he found out after...)

Any1 experience of getting nicked in similar circumstances??

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Old 15 April 2004, 04:20 PM
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if he keeps his license I'll be surprised...
Old 15 April 2004, 04:22 PM
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I got caught 33mph over the speed limit which was over the magic 100.. I got 0 pts / £450 / 7 day ban, but was on a dual carrageway.. speeding in a 40 is strictley frowned upon so expect the penalities to be harsh..

Remember the magistrates court is not consistent either, bit like a lucky dip... anything could happen. but would expect dependant on previous to get 6-9 pts / 4-8 week ban / £300-500ish

Time your bro changed his driving style
Old 15 April 2004, 04:25 PM
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Licence and £££, down the pan !!!!
Old 15 April 2004, 04:31 PM
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sell the car coz I dont think he will be driving it for much longer
Old 15 April 2004, 04:33 PM
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In fairness, he'd just moved to a new area, and on first impressions the road"looked" like a 60......went for the overtake, and well, there ya go.....

I told him to change his number plates ages ago.......keep em coming!

cheers!
Old 15 April 2004, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by brybusa
In fairness, he'd just moved to a new area, and on first impressions the road"looked" like a 60......went for the overtake, and well, there ya go.....

I told him to change his number plates ages ago.......keep em coming!

cheers!
it looked like a 60 so he did 90mph once you go 30mph over the speed limit its a ban with the amount he went over itll be a bigger ban and bigger fine
Old 15 April 2004, 06:26 PM
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Old 15 April 2004, 06:33 PM
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youll get a short ban and a smallish fine, or a large fine and 5-6points if you convince them it was a one off and you need your license, plus have a good record.. if you need your license for work then a proper letter from your employer and a solicitor for half a day may save your license.
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I'd be surprised if any magistrate would contemplate NOT banning someone for being in the region of 40 to 50mph over the speedlimit. I assume the exact figure is so vague as your brother wasn't stopped at the time? How sure is he that hes been done?

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Old 15 April 2004, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave_A
I'd be surprised if any magistrate would contemplate NOT banning someone for being in the region of 40 to 50mph over the speedlimit. I assume the exact figure is so vague as your brother wasn't stopped at the time? How sure is he that hes been done?

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i got 6 points and fine for 82 in a 40, big fine tho!
Old 15 April 2004, 09:27 PM
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Sadly I a few years back I clocked up 81 in a 40 (Dual Carriageway) on a Fireblade overtaking the Caravan Club returning home one Sunday evening

Not Good News for your Bro I am afraid.

Realistically they will be hard pushed not to ban but the key is to get this as little as possible I managed to get a short 7 Day Ban.

Your Brother must show that he is genuinely apologetic and has considered the implications of what may have happened if he hit someone / something.

I put my bike up for sale and showed the magistrates that I had seen the error of my ways and brought a copy of the autotrader.

I also mentioned that I needed a licence for my job (Critical to reducing Ban period). A letter from employer is very helpful.

Overall apologise and appear smart and sincere in the court (You will need to appear in court at that speed ) Respect the magistrates and ideally take a wife/kid along if possible and explain to them that you have responsibilities.

A Clean Licence will help and explain this was a one off and you thought it was a 60 limit and wont do it again.

The bad news is that whatever happens the Insurance premiums for the next five years will be where you really will pay the price.

Good Luck
Old 15 April 2004, 09:32 PM
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To be honest your brother is a bloody idiot to be driving at that speed and I hope they ban him for a long time as people like him are a danger to other road users.
Old 15 April 2004, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by J S W
To be honest your brother is a bloody idiot to be driving at that speed and I hope they ban him for a long time as people like him are a danger to other road users.
Agreed, bad luck doesn't even enter into it, this was just plain dumb.

Doing a ton on the motorway where you know the limit is 70 is pushing your luck, doing it on a dual carriageway where you don't know what the limit is (and it could be anywhere from 30 to 70) is stupid and extremely irresponsible.

I'm afraid I don't have any sympathy for that.

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Old 15 April 2004, 11:45 PM
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My mate was caught doing 109 mph on the M40 (70 mph) - he got a 28 day ban, 6 points and had to cough up £4,000 (£3,500 fine and £500 costs)!!

It really depends how the magistrates are feeling on the day...

Mark.

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Old 16 April 2004, 09:23 AM
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£4k fine? I think I'd rather have the ban!

I'm assuming he tried to get off with it, and it was increased to that level - doubt he'll do that again...
Old 16 April 2004, 09:45 AM
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I got 6 point & £800 fine + costs for 90 in a 50, and was incredibly lucky not to get a ban.

In a 40 he's on a ban, I'm afraid - 7 days if a clean licence, up to 28 days if he already has a reasonable number of points.
Old 16 April 2004, 11:43 AM
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The damage will be pretty heavy, and he should not be surprised at that. Even in a 60 limit that really is pushing everyone's luck.

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Old 16 April 2004, 04:02 PM
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> double the speed limit ? He should expect ban and plan accordingly. I'm gobsmacked frankly that ChrisTOTB says he got away without being banned for similar speed in a 40. How long ago was that Chris ? Magistrates work to guidelines and the guidelines may well be stricter now.

BTW, everyone pleads that they need the car for work, have responsibilities, letter from employer saying job is at risk etc. The magistrates hear the same thing for virtually every speeder trying to escape a ban. They are getting hardened to it, unless your brother can point to special circumstances, and I mean the top 5% of special cases, then it won't make much difference.

It's worth trying of course, but I did all the above and got a 42 day ban for less than twice the limit, in a 70mph zone though. Heard every one of the previous 6 accused pleading the same things. The casualty doctor get off best with just a 7 day ban.
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Originally Posted by SiDHEaD
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Stupid more like!

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Old 16 April 2004, 06:10 PM
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Wouldn't like his insurance bill when he drives again - ouch.

If the proof shows he was doing 80 -90 mph I don't think its speeding he will get hit with, it will be dangerous driving which is a far more serious offence.
Old 16 April 2004, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobs_4ever
Wouldn't like his insurance bill when he drives again - ouch.

If the proof shows he was doing 80 -90 mph I don't think its speeding he will get hit with, it will be dangerous driving which is a far more serious offence.
lets hope so
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