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Old 12 January 2004, 12:20 PM
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Anyone recommend any RGB compatible Scart multi-plugs ? Preferably 3+ scart inputs and one S-Video input, but just Scart inputs would be fine. Must be RGB compatible
Old 12 January 2004, 12:40 PM
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What are you trying to connect to what. Sounds like you have a lot of different formats going on.
Old 12 January 2004, 12:45 PM
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If all the scarts are full 21? pin wired, they will be rgb compatible...


s video is a different kettle of fish, it utilises a seperate

chroma feed, and has no audio feed...


the jury is out over which is better ir s video or rgb

some will say one is better than the other ,, the only thing i can say is there both infinatly better than a straight airel (rf)

or composite feed


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Old 12 January 2004, 12:50 PM
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I have:

1 x PS2 - using 21 pin RGB for video but Optical for audio
1 x X-Box - using 21 pin RGB for video but Optical for audio
1 x Sony DVD Player - using S-Video for video only
1 x Sky Digibox - 21 pin Scart

This looks like a good bet, but I could do without another box under the TV
Old 12 January 2004, 01:20 PM
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That's overkill for what you need.

Go to Maplin.co.uk or Radioshack.co.uk and find what you need, shouldn't cost you more than £10 for a switcher box, like this



Search for SCART SWITCHING BOX

[Edited by DavidBrown - 1/12/2004 1:21:54 PM]
Old 12 January 2004, 01:22 PM
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I have a similar box (the the one DJ Dunk linked to) under my TV, and it works quite well. One thing to bear in mind though is that the box is only a switch, i.e. it doesn't convert between signal types, so you only get out what you put in.

[Edited by dr_ming - 1/12/2004 1:41:51 PM]
Old 12 January 2004, 01:25 PM
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your missing the point with scart.

plug the sky box and the dvd player directly into the 2 x scart sockets on the tv, if you have a sony trintron tv both will run rgb (allthough the spec says on av1).

plug the xbox into the 2nd scart of the sky box and the ps2 into the 2nd scart of the dvd, when you want to use either console just turn the sky box/ dvd off and the console will loop through.

problem solved.
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pbee - I have a Sony Wega TV which has 2 scarts, but only one is RGB, the difference in picture quality is very noticeable when plugged into the non-RGB socket.

The second scart socket on the digibox is an output only, to VCR and the like. The DVD player has no Scarts, just composite, component or S-Video, which is why its not set-up already as you suggest.
Old 12 January 2004, 01:47 PM
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DJ Dunk - The box you linked to would appear to do the job you want. However, does your Sony DVD not have RGB video out? If so then you only need to link one SCART cable from the switch box to your TV (AV1). Also, I assume the optical audio from your X-BOX and PS2 go to some kind of AV amp and not the TV?

Ming.
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Just had SKY+ installed and was wondering how to get DolbyD thru my amp. Currently have the Xbox plugged into the optical input of the amp, Sky box connected to TV via Scart into AV1.
If I were to use the Sky boxs optical connection to the amp and just plug the scart of the Xbox into the Skybox, would I get Dobly Digital from it?
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Should have explained better

The DVD player is a Sony Dolby Digital amp as well. The optical leads from the X-Box and PS2 both go into this for sound.

No scart on the DVD/Amp just component/S-Video/Composite.
Old 12 January 2004, 01:49 PM
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Argos have this which switches automatically between input devices depending on which was turned on last. It's still another (small) box though They also have several manual switches as mentioned above. I wouldn't expect much technical support though.
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Oh, just seen your latest post. The switch box will still do want you want. Just link the SCART out to your AV1, and link the S-video outs (on the switch box) to AV2 on the TV using an S-Video to SCART cable.

Then link the optical out on the switch box to the optical in on your AV amp. Job done.

Pretty similar to my set-up really.

Ming.

[Edited by dr_ming - 1/12/2004 1:53:07 PM]
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Matt - You can get a splitter to put 2 optical feeds into one
Old 12 January 2004, 01:52 PM
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2nd Scart on a digibox should paas-thru RGB if the Digibox is off.

Keene Electronics do a very wide range of Scat swicthing solution from manual press the button to remote controlled.

Dean

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James - Cheers mate, new to all this "technology" didn't know you could get these things!
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Cheers guys - I'll have a look at whats available. Don't mind maying £40 for something suitable but the smaller the better.
Old 12 January 2004, 04:07 PM
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You can get a lead that will take the component RGB out of the DVD in to the Scart input of you TV.
Your sky box can also output RGB if you look in the picture menu. Then everything will be running RGB, should make it easier to switch then.

Oh and RGB is better than S-SVHS that's a fact.
Old 12 January 2004, 04:21 PM
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I bought a manual switch box (3 scart inputs) for use with my Sony TV, got it from the Sony Centre (some third party make) but it was only £20 and has an RGB switch on it + record from source X to create a loop.

Does the job and is silver

Alex
Old 12 January 2004, 04:23 PM
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You can get a lead that will take the component RGB out of the DVD in to the Scart input of you TV
Where from Chaz ?
Old 12 January 2004, 04:27 PM
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Component(Y/U/V)is NOT RGB.

Deano.
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My component sockets are labelled Y, Pb/Cb & Pr/Cr if that helps ?

I assumed this is the best option for image clarify but couldn't find a suitable way to connect this to my Scart socketted TV ? Thats why I used the S-Video, which seems pretty good, better than I expected. Plus it was easy to find an S-Video -> Scart adaptor.
Old 12 January 2004, 05:15 PM
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Duk - yep Y/Pb/CR = Y/U/V = "proper" component - used for pojectors, plasmas and the like - rarely seen on TVs. Uses 3 channels/wires/signal to transmit high quality picture. RGB is similair in that it uses 3 channels/wires/signal but is a different standard.

http://www.syncblaster.com/gtmfytv.htm has a full explanation - actually taken from the Keene electronics catalogue which apart from lots of kit has plenty oof detail.

On mu DVD the RGB and S-Video picture are indistinguishable - and both better than composits. I also Use S-VIdeo as my AV amps siwtches multiple S-Video signals (DVD, X-Box, PlayStation) to send just one to the TV.

Deano
Old 12 January 2004, 08:12 PM
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I'm also having the same problem at the mo - tried all combinations and I always end up with either a crap PS2 pic, or a multi-coloured DVD pic.

Currently having to swap Scarts behind the TV

Went to Argos for their box, and it turns out it is NOT fully wired (even though it says so in the catalgoue).

That Play thing looks pretty cool.
Old 12 January 2004, 10:45 PM
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DW - have u tried switching the other devices off as I've a multi scart box thing running DVD and freeview box.
If I leave both turned on then the pic when I watch the other is crap. If I turn the device not being watched off then the pic is ok (not brilliant, some deterioration from straight cable run)
Old 13 January 2004, 12:41 PM
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You didnt read what i put.

First the sky box comment. Yes when the sky box is on it is output only so the vcr can record. when the sky box is off it loops through. (how else do you watch a recording ?? without using the coax UHF output). So you could use this to plug a console into just turn the skybox off.

(I have a xbox plugged into my vcr which is plugged into my sky box which is plugged into my tv, as my tv is to far away i havent yet got a long enough cable to go direct to the tv which is component only anyway).

I have 3 different model Sony Trintrons 1 at home 2 at work both state in the manual only av1 is rgb, but it is common knowlege both will run rgb with no problems. you only get problems if you use composite on av1 and rgb on av2 and have both devices turned on.


try it, set your sky box to RGB whilst plugged into av2, and your dvd player plugged into av1 as rgb, works fine I bet,
Trust me it will work and you should have enough cables with your devices to try it before buying any aftermarket cables.
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Well my Sony Wega is definately NOT Rgb on AV2.

Neither is my parents 15 year old 21" trinitron

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before anyone coments you can set the component inputs to run in rgb compatible and it is a proffesional quality multi format lcd projector from the states hence no scart. hence why i daisy chain consoles ect but have sky and dvd laserdisc directly connected.
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My Wega is also not RGB on AV2, yes I have tried, yes the picture is sh!te.
Old 13 January 2004, 03:35 PM
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Neither is mine. Just Composite and S-Video.
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