cd wow taken to court?
08 January 2004, 03:26 PM
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Ii heard CDWOW bought their CD's off Hong Kong or something therefore being able to undercut every1 else, aparently this is against certain regulations for not selling proper british releases thats why sometimes when u order off CDWOW u get a difference CD cover etc....
any1 else heard this?
any1 else heard this?
08 January 2004, 03:29 PM
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The BPI are taking CD-Wow to court as they are "parallel importing" the CD's and DVD's. Which may be illegal. Certainly Tesco set a (small) precedence when they imported lots of jeans to sell and got told to stop and fined.
Peronally I think it's stupid, but the BPI are trying to protect their profit margins within the UK.
Steve.
The BPI are taking CD-Wow to court as they are "parallel importing" the CD's and DVD's. Which may be illegal. Certainly Tesco set a (small) precedence when they imported lots of jeans to sell and got told to stop and fined.
Peronally I think it's stupid, but the BPI are trying to protect their profit margins within the UK.
Steve.
08 January 2004, 03:42 PM
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Play buy all their products from north america / canada. They are based i think in jersey (tax haven) and avoid all sorts of taxes as they are not subject to uk tax laws.
This is what the goverment want to clamp down on.
This is what the goverment want to clamp down on.
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08 January 2004, 03:51 PM
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I just saw this and came to post but it's already here!
Amazing, at a time when people are downloading music for free the music industry try to force up the prices of CD's! Talk about cut off your nose to spite your face. Surely it would make more sense to cut the price of CD's in the UK to compete!
It's greed pure and simple.
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Amazing, at a time when people are downloading music for free the music industry try to force up the prices of CD's! Talk about cut off your nose to spite your face. Surely it would make more sense to cut the price of CD's in the UK to compete!
It's greed pure and simple.
Dave
08 January 2004, 03:54 PM
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i know, the only reason i buy cd's or dvd's is because these sites provide them a little bit cheaper, if they get closed and the prices i'd have to pay went back up i know i'd be looking at less legally sound sources for my entertainment media.
08 January 2004, 03:58 PM
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Any music lover who's not short-sighted should despise these cheapo outlets and free downloads! Record companies need to make money in order to find and promote new bands.
The alternative is no decent music in 10 years time.
The alternative is no decent music in 10 years time.
08 January 2004, 04:15 PM
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I doubt a record label or artist make less on a purchase from cdwow than hmv. The price difference is down to cdwow making less profit per sale, plus the tax advantages described. Downloads are a different matter of course.
Amazon's pricing has been brought closer to cdwow's now, presumably stay in the competition.
Amazon's pricing has been brought closer to cdwow's now, presumably stay in the competition.
08 January 2004, 04:20 PM
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LMAO @ xyzpaul!
CD-WOW are supplying 100% legit CD products from the Asian market.
The supply chain therefore knows the cost price ie record company > distributor (if involved) > CD Wow and how much the consumer will be paying.
It shouldn't matter one iota to the record company if the purchaser of the CD lives in HK, UK or Mars. They've made the choice of the price to sell it and must be making a profit on each CD (or else they'd have put the price up by now).
It just shows how much we rucked for CDs in this country. The BPI just want t to protect their nice little profit margin.
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CD-WOW are supplying 100% legit CD products from the Asian market.
The supply chain therefore knows the cost price ie record company > distributor (if involved) > CD Wow and how much the consumer will be paying.
It shouldn't matter one iota to the record company if the purchaser of the CD lives in HK, UK or Mars. They've made the choice of the price to sell it and must be making a profit on each CD (or else they'd have put the price up by now).
It just shows how much we rucked for CDs in this country. The BPI just want t to protect their nice little profit margin.
Chris.
08 January 2004, 04:20 PM
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"That is untrue (and no I don't work for one). Record companies are reporting poor financial results. "
thats probably more down to the lack of anything decent being released and this famous for 15 min trend which is a round at the mo, all the ****e pop stuff.
plus "poor financial results" is probably wouldnt be considered "poor" to most other people, there just greedy ****os
thats probably more down to the lack of anything decent being released and this famous for 15 min trend which is a round at the mo, all the ****e pop stuff.
plus "poor financial results" is probably wouldnt be considered "poor" to most other people, there just greedy ****os
08 January 2004, 04:35 PM
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record companies not making much eh, agents are making a pritty penny though, wasnt it reported this year Simon Cowel made 20m or something stupid off gareth gates where gareth only got something like 1.5m no????
OK I dont know the ins n outs of is he an agent or record company but they make enough to get by
downloading music is a different kettle of fish but what CDWOW are doing is providing the public CD's at good prices and thats being stopped so the BPI can rip us off still.
Isnt it reported it costs a record company soething like 50pence to produce the CD... look at the end user price... theres some profit there my friends
OK I dont know the ins n outs of is he an agent or record company but they make enough to get by
downloading music is a different kettle of fish but what CDWOW are doing is providing the public CD's at good prices and thats being stopped so the BPI can rip us off still.
Isnt it reported it costs a record company soething like 50pence to produce the CD... look at the end user price... theres some profit there my friends
08 January 2004, 04:37 PM
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Buying from cheapo outlets also means less income for proper record shops, e.g. HMV, independents, etc. who don't only stock top-40 stuff. That is the lifeblood of new bands who won't sell any records otherwise. Cheapo outlets including supermarkets, and free downloads, are evil!
08 January 2004, 04:45 PM
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Ahh, quick change of arguments there xyzpaul after your last one turned into the Titantic
If CD-WOW has a weakness, it's the limited range of CDs it carries. I'll sometimes try to find a CD on there and come up blanks, so IMO there is a niche in the market for small independants to carry and promote more ecelctic and other stuff.
BPI and the major UK record stores could put CD-WOW in trouble by dropping prices but they don't want to (IMO). I vote with my wallet.
If CD-WOW has a weakness, it's the limited range of CDs it carries. I'll sometimes try to find a CD on there and come up blanks, so IMO there is a niche in the market for small independants to carry and promote more ecelctic and other stuff.
BPI and the major UK record stores could put CD-WOW in trouble by dropping prices but they don't want to (IMO). I vote with my wallet.
08 January 2004, 04:53 PM
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i rarely buy any chart cd's as pretty much all of them make me cringe! most of the stuff i listen to is nowhere near mainstream so these bands dont lose out as there not available on cdwow 
id never buy a cd from hmv tho! i mean why the hell would i want to pay an extortionate £17 for a cd i can get for £7.99 in a shop around the corner?
id never buy a cd from hmv tho! i mean why the hell would i want to pay an extortionate £17 for a cd i can get for £7.99 in a shop around the corner?
08 January 2004, 04:53 PM
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Okay, I agree that legit outlets don't harm record company income. But they do harm new band development, and free downloads harm everyone except short-sighted fans.
Record companies are NOT making much money!
Record companies are NOT making much money!
08 January 2004, 05:09 PM
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I agree with XYZ Paul
how many musicians with mortgages will agree to work for free? will any of you work for free? Not all musicians are millionaires. Its ridiculous to make any sort of arguement that all music should be free unless the artist has agreed to publish his/her work on the web.All the illegal downloading doesn't help all the developing bands pay their bills.
I certainly would be pissed off if i had a talent and everyone suddenly told me i had an "obligation" to give my talent away for nowt just because someone else is rich.
thats bollox and i agree with banning free downloads unless agreed by the musician themselves
how many musicians with mortgages will agree to work for free? will any of you work for free? Not all musicians are millionaires. Its ridiculous to make any sort of arguement that all music should be free unless the artist has agreed to publish his/her work on the web.All the illegal downloading doesn't help all the developing bands pay their bills.
I certainly would be pissed off if i had a talent and everyone suddenly told me i had an "obligation" to give my talent away for nowt just because someone else is rich.
thats bollox and i agree with banning free downloads unless agreed by the musician themselves
08 January 2004, 05:19 PM
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im gonna have to interrupt here...
downloading music has NOTHING to do with what were talking about.
it was about cdwow and bpi trying to take them to court for selling cd's and dvd's cheaper
downloading music has NOTHING to do with what were talking about.
it was about cdwow and bpi trying to take them to court for selling cd's and dvd's cheaper
08 January 2004, 05:24 PM
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fair enough,but xyz paul made a valid point all the same relating to the concept of free downloads,but he got blasted,and for one,agree with him
the whole concept of free music has got out of hand imo
And we DON'T pay too much over here anymore,Asda sell chart CDs for £9.89,as cheap as the US
the whole concept of free music has got out of hand imo
And we DON'T pay too much over here anymore,Asda sell chart CDs for £9.89,as cheap as the US