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Old 28 December 2003, 01:49 PM
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"The essence of being human is that one does not seek perfection, that one is sometimes willing to commit sins for the sake of loyalty, that one does not push asceticism to the point where it makes friendly intercourse impossible, and that one is prepared in the end to be defeated and broken up by life, which is the inevitable price of fastening one’s love upon other human individuals."
George Orwell (1903–50), British author

We're not really claiming that we're perfect: it's simply not true! Masonry has it's faults and problems. Sometimes a member slips into alcoholism, mental depression or other forms of sickness. Sometimes a member will forget his vows and act wrongly towards another human being. Sometimes a member will cheat, steal, or wrong someone else. It has happened, much as we'd like to wish it had not.

When it does, anti-Masons are quick to point out these shortcomings. Rather than extend a helping hand to someone who has stumbled or fallen, they'd rather mock and rejoice in the ill-fortune. Most seem to get great pleasure in the pain and suffering another member of mankind is facing - and justify their glee because in their minds, 'Masons deserve whatever they get!'.

Regardless, though, few Masons relish the thought of someone else suffering. The precepts of Masonry encourage toleration and forbearance. Masonry supports the concept that it is far better to help someone up than to kick them down

How perfect can you get.

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Old 28 December 2003, 02:21 PM
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What are you on about?????
Old 28 December 2003, 02:25 PM
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He must be trying to get into the police.
Old 28 December 2003, 02:37 PM
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So Chip are you Grand Wizard of your Lodge?

Do you know about the higher degrees of Masonry or do you just think it is merely a service club like Rotary and Lions???
Old 28 December 2003, 02:40 PM
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its a charity organisation...............
Old 28 December 2003, 03:41 PM
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First rule of mason is you're not supposed to talk about the masons.

Second rule of mason is you're not supposed to talk about the masons.
Old 28 December 2003, 03:42 PM
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No,Im not a mason. Just wonder what theyre all about thsts all. Seems to be some secret society type of thing if you listen to people.

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Old 28 December 2003, 07:36 PM
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Watch the Stonecutters episode of The Simpsons,that explains everything.
Old 28 December 2003, 07:50 PM
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So WHO or WHAT exactly is/was Jahbulon (sp?)...
Old 28 December 2003, 09:04 PM
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Flat,
What you on about?

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Old 28 December 2003, 09:13 PM
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Jason,
Nice to see you did your homework.I blame the government though.

Chip.

[Edited by Chip - 12/28/2003 9:25:32 PM]
Old 28 December 2003, 09:26 PM
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their *******s
Old 28 December 2003, 09:28 PM
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Who are and why?

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[Edited by Chip - 12/28/2003 9:29:03 PM]
Old 28 December 2003, 09:31 PM
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Moses,

Please explain your reply ?. I assume you must have an indepth knowledge of the brotherhood to make such a comment. If not then please retract
Old 28 December 2003, 09:32 PM
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Chip

You mean Jahbulon (spelling?) ?

I seem to remember that this was the origin of the Supreme Being that Freemasons from all faiths have an allegiance to ?

As mentioned by someone else, I have no knowledge of the higher order rituals of the Masons as that is the point - they are only revealed the higher you progress..





Old 28 December 2003, 09:33 PM
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get the goat out bbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
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and they luv the one eyed monster lol
Old 28 December 2003, 09:38 PM
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So WHO or WHAT exactly is/was Jahbulon (sp?)...
You mean Jahbulon (spelling?)
Why are you asking me?

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Old 28 December 2003, 09:41 PM
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Moses ain't far from Lodge no.1 so maybe he does have some good knowledge

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Old 28 December 2003, 09:48 PM
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Yeah first you ask if they're a mason, next you're gonna ask them about project Mayhem..Oh shi...
Old 28 December 2003, 09:51 PM
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Jason,
Whats that got to do with you ? How I spend my spare time and money is my business, not yours.
Old 28 December 2003, 09:53 PM
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Starstruck,
Why didnt you answer the question posted by Jason.
Maybe it is a secret society then.

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Old 28 December 2003, 09:56 PM
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My Dad's a mason.

But i have as little interest in Free Masonry as i do in flat-soled shoes, ie zero. Just doesn't float my boat. I couldn't pretend to be religious for any cause i'm afraid.

I'm not sure if my Dad's disappointed i've never taken him up on his invitations to find out more; we've never really talked about it.
Old 28 December 2003, 10:00 PM
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Kinnel Tel 15000 posts. Must be a record.

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Old 28 December 2003, 10:03 PM
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He sure is.

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Old 28 December 2003, 10:03 PM
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Chip,

The term "Mason" attracts too much negative publicity these days. Masons give a great deal of money and time to the community. This is infrequently reported. The press prefer to concentrate on the unknown aspects of the society. It is no different to many clubs that have certain rules.


Old 28 December 2003, 10:05 PM
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Starstruck,
Why are you avoiding the original Q posted by Jason.

Is being a mason something to be ashamed of?

Chip.

Old 28 December 2003, 10:07 PM
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'Tis true starstruck.

The thing that alienated me initially though, was all the book-learning my Dad had to do.

What's that about??? What does learning it off-pat prove?? I just didn't understand why that was a good test of loyalty, it left me cold.

(Chip, nah, there are a few ahead of me, but they're in my sights!!)
Old 28 December 2003, 10:09 PM
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Chip,

Absolutely not. If you would care to research the works of Henry Sadler you would see that the works of the modern Masonic community are based on beliefs and traditions older than many religions
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Starstruck,
So from this, I can deduct that you are actually a mason then?

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