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Old 18 December 2003, 08:59 AM
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I swear, Im well pished off. Had another famous rows with daddy last night, so I told the **** what to do with himself then 'left'. Left at 7.30pm (jus got back lol) and it must have been the COLDEST fukin night of the year[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] I was almost crying with it, must have been -2 or -3 got no sleep and no food so im buggered and feeling ill.

Theres a lake that was like a mill pond yesterday, it must have had 1/4 inch of ****** ice on it this morning[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]


Guess who sleeping out tonight..(clue-not me)


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Old 18 December 2003, 09:01 AM
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well.... aren't you gonna tell us what the argument was about so we can be judgemental?
Old 18 December 2003, 09:04 AM
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Hes just a c*nt, plane and simple. Tell yer what, Ill shuv 'im in the lake and see how long the **** lasts[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Old 18 December 2003, 09:05 AM
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i'm sure someone must have suggested this before, but if you hate your old man so much, why don't you move out?
Old 18 December 2003, 09:06 AM
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Maybe this would be a good time to make the break and find a place of your own.
Old 18 December 2003, 09:06 AM
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I like your Dad more and more each day.
Old 18 December 2003, 09:07 AM
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Chaos: have you ever thought of counting up to 10??????????

All you are doing is storing up grief for yourself..........you will almost undoubtedly survive your father's passing, and then, during the long watches of the night, your subconscious will insist on dragging up every thing it can to give you grief over your relationship with your dad.

When he is gone, it will be WAY too late to tell him you really cared.
Don't do this any more........do yourself a favour, get out from under if you can, but stop falling out with him, and stop abusing him on a public BBS:
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Old 18 December 2003, 09:08 AM
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I would but I couldnt afford to rent around here, too expensive.

Prolly will in the new year though, when Ive got a job..


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Old 18 December 2003, 09:10 AM
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How is it that we can tell you off and you take it in your stride. However, if your Dad takes you to task you chuck a hissy fit and storm out of the house?
Old 18 December 2003, 09:12 AM
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Depending on how old you are, and what you are doing at present, you could move?

Living with an old boy who is, shall we say, strong minded, is not easy.
Been there, done that.

I don't hate my dad, but I don't see as much of him as my sister does.

Also, remember the damage, both psychological, and physical, that these rows are doing to YOU!

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Old 18 December 2003, 09:19 AM
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I dont always leave the house, just wasnt in the mood for argueing/fighting yesterday, some days you just cant be bothered. When I get a job Im deff gunna move out.

Old 18 December 2003, 09:22 AM
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yoof


My nephew had a stand-up barney with his mum (several) & ended up staying with us for 6 months. I used to tear him off strips for various transgressions and he never ever talked back or argued the toss. He's a good lad now.

Guess its a matter of perception, but once you're over 18, your parents have no legal responsibility for you, so if they want to chuck you out, they can.

I'd always say don't cr@p on your doorstep. At the moment, as you realise, its very cold out there, so getting yourself thrown out would not be the wiesest career move, what with no job etc. People also have a problem in employing homeless citizens.

Its your folks house and people don't like having the toss argued in their own house, so try and bite your tongue, look down, take it, then when you can move out.

As my nephew knows, mum is much better from afar and they get on quite reasonably if not under the same roof.
Old 18 December 2003, 09:31 AM
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How old are you chaos?
Old 18 December 2003, 09:34 AM
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but once you're over 18, your parents have no legal responsibility for you
16, actually.
Old 18 December 2003, 09:37 AM
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He's 17, as he's been taking driving lessons.
Old 18 December 2003, 09:38 AM
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Actually Chaos, I can kind of understand what you're going through. Brothers went through the same thing with my dad. Different situation but it's basically a primal thing and the pecking list is being sorted.

Watch any pack of animals and the males will fight it out for territory.

You're rebelling against your dad's best wishes, your dad's trying to do what's best for you.

Time to leave the nest and you'll get on a lot better.
Old 18 December 2003, 09:40 AM
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Many a wise word Alcazar.... I certainly have issues with my dad... Haven't spoken to him or should that be he to me for about 12 - 13 years (I'm only 25)

I took the plunge recently and asked him to sort all this out cos I don't wanna be in that position...

Can do serious damage falling out and not talking to your parents...
Old 18 December 2003, 09:40 AM
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Hang on.
Are you the fella whose going to firebomb all the local test centres?
Old 18 December 2003, 09:43 AM
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16, actually.
Yeah? Great

11 years and 7 months before we get the house back to ourselves


















Old 18 December 2003, 09:46 AM
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Two words for you chaos:

Big Issue?

Now you don't want to be doing that do you? Sort your problems out with your Dad or you will regret it.

[Edited by angrynorth - 12/18/2003 9:46:39 AM]
Old 18 December 2003, 09:50 AM
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Do you think that your dad has got beef with you because he wants to see you progress your life in a more positive way ?

Have to say I agree with Alcazar but it only works if your dad is not a **** in the first place (I'm assuming that he's not really).

If he really is a **** then bugger him. My mum is not quite a **** but I can't stand her so have as little to do with her as possible. Despite this minor setback I still live (what I consider to be) a very fruitfull life and am happy with life with my partner/daughter and the outlaws.
Old 18 December 2003, 09:50 AM
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<sigh>

A few years back, when I was 15/16 I didn't get on with my Dad. I was very headstrong at that age and spent one or two nights wandering the streets or staying with a mate.

Eventually we moved from Wrexham to a small village outside, many years later I discovered that the reason was my Dad was in one of the town pubs and heard me in the bar playing pool. I must have been 15 or 16 at the time.

I loved cars (still do) and once took my Dads car for a spin (I was 16). My Dad's reaction other than a good b0llocking was to buy me a car and take me driving on Asda car park.

Eventually coming through my teens, my Dad paid my deposit on my first house, bought me beers when the mortgage payments made me skint, bought the wine for my wedding and paid for my honeymoon.

He died last year aged 56. My daughter was 15 months old, my unborn child was a distint twinckle, both will grow up without knowing him.

I miss him, especially when the shower breaks, or I need to do some electrical work, just for some advice. Christmas especially, my in-laws are a pain in the ****, so both my wife and I preferred to visit my Dad. I'm 32 years old, so have a long time ahead without him.

On Tuesday I'm travelling up to Oswestry to hand over the keys to the new owners of his house (my Mum and Dad were divorced) the last time I'll set foot in it, it'll be difficult, but an all dayer round Wrexham with some mates should help.

Moral of the story.

Don't be such a c*nt yourself chaos, one day I guarantee you will regret it.

Old 18 December 2003, 09:54 AM
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Im 18, is it 21 to rent a house or am I OK? TBH I dont get on with 'family' prefer friends meself. Not seen my cousins and aunts and grandparents for several years, and my mother expects me to go up on christmas day! Fek that, It will be an interrogation, a barrage of questions. Cant be doing with that.

Ive seen what you can rent for 600/month, and TBH its pretty basic, dread to think what a 300/month would be like Guess Ill have to live in squaller for a while.

never mind.


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Old 18 December 2003, 09:56 AM
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Rent with other people - share the monthly rent / bills.

You'll never get anywhere if you give up before trying.
Old 18 December 2003, 10:21 AM
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Is it just me or does any one else remember a similar thread not so long ago discussing exactly the same topic?
Old 18 December 2003, 10:23 AM
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It's a once-a-month discussion mate. Chaos just doesn't have the memory capacity to realise he's been through it all before...
Old 18 December 2003, 11:22 AM
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Chaos.

Get your dad to sign a piece of paper saying he gives up all perental responsibility for you, and wants you to leave. Even if you are <18, this is estrangement, and means you can claim benefits.

Find your local 'drop-in' teen help center, and you will usually find a place to stay pretty quickly.

I lived at a YMCA hostel for a while - very very low time in my life, but its all worked out in the end.

To avoid the hassle, practice the 'Yes Dad' theory. Even if what he is saying is wrong, and he is a ****, just say 'Yes Dad'. Still do what you want, but let him believe you are actually ******* listening. It works I tell thee proper bo.

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Old 18 December 2003, 11:37 AM
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Mice_Elf wrote:

You're rebelling against your dad's best wishes, your dad's trying to do what's best for you.
I would say his dad is starting to feel insecure in his position as Alpha-male. Realise his worst fears and stave him in.

[Edited by V45DSM - 12/18/2003 11:39:58 AM]
Old 18 December 2003, 12:15 PM
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Chaos you're full of ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was kicked out the house when i was 15 years old (no it wasn't my fault) and i survived just fine and was renting places when i was 16-17 on my own. I didn't need ******* handouts from Mummy and Daddy either.

So why don't you just p!ss off and grow up.
Old 18 December 2003, 12:22 PM
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weapon69,

Have you ever considered a career in child psychology?




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