matty01

...say an extra 1 or 2 pence in the pound to build some extra jails and start locking people up again like in the' olden days' politicians presume we don't want to pay but i think they're wrong. So,who would gladly pay for this specific scheme?

ianmiller999

If the prison service was run properly, and less time was spent doing pointless paperwork, risk assessmnets etc there would be no need for extra funding.

pugoetru

bring back hanging for murderers

car thieves have to work for rover building cars

housebreakers have to work for everest fitting double glazing

muggers have to work in hospitals cleaning up poo and puke

there we dont need jails

fatherpierre

Do you not think we pay enough in tax already?

Make THEM pay for their stay in prison.

It could be like a student loan thing, where they pay the money after their release.

And for any lifer, execution should be brought in!

boomer

A good starting point would be to make convicted (first, second, third [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] time) criminals actually pay their fine in the first place!!!

It seems that almost half don't bother to do so, and the incompetent justice system can't be bothered to chase them up [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

This is made even worse by the fact that i bet most fines these days are for supposed "speeding", for which yer average law abiding motorist will pay up without fail. Thus the percentage of "real crime" fines that don't get paid will be much much more

mb

magepaster

iTrader: (2)

Wouldn`t that make it very easy for housebreakers to see what you have in your house and then come back to nick it?

NACRO

I wouldn't, we just need to lock up the right sort of people. Then there wouldn't be an overpopulation problem in prison.

Brendan Hughes

Jail has been generally proved as just a university for criminals. You want to increase that?

I don't know the answer, but I believe community service orders are poorly enforced. I would certainly like to see muggers working in old people's homes being forced to clean the bedpans, and vandals being forced to scrape graffiti off buildings. Two birds with one stone.

SWRTWannabe

I wouldn't want to pay any more tax - I'd rather what I do pay be spent wisely instead of squandered.

SkodaMan

Execution doesn't work. The American justice system has proved that.

However, I am interested by this comment:
What a spankingly good idea! Better yet, make prisoners work as everyone else does from 9-5 and teach them marketable skills that might help them get a proper job when they are released, but also take a portion of their salary earned during the prison term to pay for their acommodation, etc...

Keeping people in debt after their release would be wrong. Firstly, the debt may tempt them to return to crime. Secondly, once the jail term is over, they have done their time and ought to have a morally clean slate - a fresh start and the opportunity to turn their lives round.

Ian Griffiths

IMO there is no such thing as a 'spent' conviction. An employer will always wonder where you were for x number of months or years, why not come clean and build the bill for the stay in to you salery?

ianmiller999

What a great idea, may help reduce over population of this country and will leave us with more ££££S to a person

SJ_Skyline

Crap!

After execution, these people do not re-offend!


Unfortunately the death penalty will never work in this country with trial by jury as you will never get a jury that will convict.


An interesting discussion I had several years (and beers) back was with an American girl who posed the concept of a mandatory death penalty - death for everything from murder down to littering. Her point was that although there would be a few highly publicised cases of people being put to death for parking on double yelow lines, dropping a cigarette butt. People would soon stop offending. I forget how the arguement went as we were all roaring drunk! (I'm sure she ended up voting republican!)

SkodaMan

And if they were in prison for life, they wouldn't do either.

There are many reasons for the way we deal with criminals, and protection isn't the only one. There's punishment, retribution, deterrent, rehabilitation etc... Execution just doesn't work.

It's a topic that gets people fired up, but look at things objectively.

blip

Thanks to the increasingly pathetic sentences dished out, and the hurry to release early in almost every case, THERE IS NO DETERRENT ANYMORE.

That is why each new generation has a higher percentage of pondlife in its ranks ready to ignore the basic principles of society and do what the f*ck they like - with impunity!!!!!

Leslie

We are being stung for tax already, if they don't sort the crims out and all the other things they should be doing-get shot of the lot of them!

Les [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

deanimus

I think we should torture murdering and thieving scum, it worked all those years ago so why not now? Much cheaper and more fun too

TurboMav

The government get enough money off us at it is. Other countries who pay less taxes than us, and have no problems !!! we r a soft nation when it comes to prisons, and need to wise up. Nowadays prison is not a deterrent. Its more of a holiday camp IMHO of course

[Edited by TurboMav - 8/10/2003 8:33:36 PM]

philz

But imagine what it would be like if all the criminals were executed tomorrow, and the threat of more executions for anyone caught mugging/stealing/raping/etc. We'd instantly wipe out all the current scum from the streets and scare the crap out of the next generation of potential scum.

Ahhh.....back to the days of being able to leave your car unlocked and the stereo in.

[Edited by philz - 8/11/2003 9:42:20 AM]