ALi-B

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This lot has got me so paranoid.

I got an e-mail response fron an Ad on auto4you.co.uk the other day in fairly loose english from a Yahoo e-mail account.

I'm debating if I should just ignore it or reply and proove my suspicions.

[Edited by ALi-B - 8/6/2003 12:12:33 AM]

dosenöffner

Simple. Take one housing benefit cheque for £200. Scan the check and print some blanks. Perforate the edge. Fill in the new amount (remember to put the units in the right column unlike this dummy) and send the cheque to me pretending to be a buyer for your associate based in South Africa.

Will let you know how I get on with the police tonight. Have arranged for him to be here tomorrow to take delivery of the car.

Shame I know something he doesn't think I know. It's a Scotland Yard job since the cheque is made out for £10,000 in one secton and £100,000 in another.

How stupid can some people be?

I like wool as much as the next Kiwi (the cheque actually originated in South Wales ) but it'll never be pulled over my eyes.

Hopefully the prize for muppet of the year award will be prison but probably not. He contacted me through an ad on www.findit.co.uk so be careful.

Right from the start I picked him as dodgy so he only ever got a hotmail account and a work address. I never gave him the registration either.

Been so long since I heard from him, cheque arrived today by DHL, that I've sold the car elsewhere and it goes Wednesday.

Never release a car without the funds cleared people. Golden rule number 1 when selling.

[Edited by dosenöffner - 04/08/2003 17:23:08]

Hanslow

Bout time someone worked with the police on this to hopefully catch the scammers

Good on ya and good luck Let us know what the police say

Luke

Take a couple of pics and post them here for us to see!!

PG

I'll give you £250 for it ????

dosenöffner

I think he'd just watched 'Catch Me If You Can' but the bit at the end where the guy gets caught and the cheque system has been changed didn't quite sink in.

brickboy

Good info, and let us know how it works out.

In the meantime, try and open an account in another name & cash the cheque ... if you get £10K, great, £100K, sorted!

TurboMav

well done m8, let us know what happens

Jay m A

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Lets hope your man does'nt read SN

May I ask why you posted this info before the event? Good luck, try to control your adrenaline whilst doing the 'deal', and lets hope the bugger does'nt get off due to some court cockup...

Luke

Thats a point...................Maybe get this thread deleted by a mod until after the event

The Zohan

Luke - It's perhaps a bit late for that now.

I am sitting here in anticipation of the outcome.

Luke

glen

you must have a video camera!!!

This could be a classic..

Serious bit... are you not worried that he knows your home address etc and might want revenge???

I know you a big lad..but there are some nutters around

dosenöffner

At no point did he get a home address or phone number. His first email lead me to believe he was a fake.

He waited 3 weeks to present the cheque because it will go through and I can draw on it. The error would not be found until month end because of the volumes which go through the account at the Council. He has waited for one to just finish.

Guess he picked the wrong person. Makes you wonder though.

There is no problem posting this. I did check first.

J4CKO

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Good luck Righteous dude !

dosenöffner

The car is not at risk. The guy is after the remainder of the money as he sent me too much in the cheque. The cheque would clear as the Council would not pick up the error until month end due to the type of account and the money volumes that flow through it.. This gives him 5 weeks grace this month.

Below is the email I recieved last night. He also phoned me which I let go to answer phone. Waiting for a response from the Police. I will take this to court if need be.

Hello Glen,
My client contacted me that the check has been delivered to you today and I
want this transaction concluded on time because the shipping agent has scheduled
to leave Africa for U.K soonest and I want to avoid the shipping delay.
Don't forget that the balance of the excess funds will be needed to prepay the
shipping agent before coming for the pick up, the funds should be sent to the
shipper's senior accountant via MONEY GRAM TRANSFER AGENT located at:
WAL-MART #2366
1470 S WASHINGTON STREET
NORTH ATTLEBORO, MA 02760
Phone: 508-699-0277.
The shipping agent is familiar with their services and they want the funds sent
via a money gram transfer agent,I'm aware of the interest that will be charged
for the transfer so you can go ahead to make the transfer ASAP.
RECIEVER'S INFORMATIONS:
MR. JOHN ADEWUNMI (SENIOR ACCOUNTANT)
25-30,HOPEWELL PORT ROAD,
TIN CAN ISLAND,LAGOS.
NIGERIA 23401.
And the following informations will be needed to recieve the funds from the
bank.
1.Sender's full name and address
2.Refference # for the transfer
3.Test question and answer
4.Total amount sent after the interest charged for the transfer.
5.And any other relevant informations regards the transfer.
You can as well contact the shipping agent Mr.John Adewunmi for further
development.
Counting on you to do the transfer ASAP to avoid shipping delay.
Thank you for your understanding and hope to do more business with you in the
nearest future.
Best regards.
Robert.

Also look here. I'm not the only one but maybe the first to carry it through to this stage. Lucky he never got any real details out of me.

http://www.celica-club.co.uk/cgi-bin...037&highlight=

[Edited by dosenöffner - 05/08/2003 11:22:27]

Richard Askew

When he's handcuffed, give him a dig in the ribs from me - thieving scum [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

sulli

I had a similar email when I was selling my Cavalier Gsi - offering to send a bigger cheque than the value, due to some crap excuse, and asking that I refund him the difference???
I knew it was a scam, but didn't quite know what - now I know.
I did try to get further info from him, but I think he clicked I was suspicious and left it.

dosenöffner

I was suspicious right from the go. I even told the guy in my first email to him. He still went through with it.

I think I'm dealing with a particularly dumb one here. It's not what I'd call smart crime.

LanciaChris

Cool. Ive had people try and pull that scam twice on me, amazingly the second time round when I told him I knew this was a scam blah blah blah he said no its not ill give you an extra £500 to prove my good intentions... surprisingly I didnt contact him. Have him killed.

dosenöffner

Considered scanning their cheque and crudely changing the figure from £10,000 to £3,000 and sending it to their 'shipping office'.

Then I figured why not send them the scanned cheque for £5,000 and ask for £2,000 back.

dosenöffner

Double post.

[Edited by dosenöffner - 05/08/2003 12:00:16]

chrome

so how did it all turn out?

dosenöffner

Still waiting on the Bill to trace a withheld nnumber. He has phoned regarding the transfer several times. I've let it run to answer phone.

The net tightens.

dosenöffner

They never come for the car. It is the deposit they are after. Just say that you will not take care of ant shipping charges.

I have had numerous phone calls from this chap now but never answer them . I let them go to answer phone. Never give out any details of the car or yourself.

I was told I could email him just to let him know not to contact me and that the police were involved. I sent the following last night.


Dear Robert,

Let's just clear a few things up before you make a complete **** of yourself.

1. I know this is a scam as I have known from day one. I draw your attention to my first email I ever sent to you.

Quote: I do have the car for sale but rather than give out an address due to the email account being a non secure one and the names not all matching please find attached my phone number I can be contacted on. Rather be safe than sorry.

This was your first mistake. You should have realised that this is a smart man I am dealing with but you didn't. Why do you think you still have no contact details for me? Only a forwarding address. Let's clear it up early. I'm smart, you're not.

2. Even after explaining to you that I would not have any dealings whatsoever with the shipping of the vehicle you persisted to send more than the required amount.

Again, you should have walked away, but you are obviously not a smart man. You'd like to think you are but you are not.

3. When counterfieting a cheque, I worked this out within 2 minutes of opening the envelope, try to line up all the text. Also bear in mind when filling in the units that under tens of thousands you put 'ONE' not 'TEN' as this would imply 100,000. Also try using a different ink for the cheque numbers as the stuff used on this one smudges badly.

Again you are not a smart man. Getting the picture here? Probably not because you are not a smart man.

4. Within a further 5 minutes of opening the cheque I had spoken to Dave Osment. You must know Dave. He's the 'Head of Finance and Scrutiny' at the Newport Council in South Wales. Still not quite with me? I'll type the next bit really slow so you can keep up. He's the chap who issued 'the cheque'.

It would appear the cheque started life as a £200 housing benefit cheque. Maybe it was yours? I can't imagine anyone employing you because you really aren't that smart.

5. You will no longer contact me on this matter. EVER!. If you require further clarification of this, as I'm sure you will because I've used a couple really big words, I suggest you conact the CID at Scotland Yard. They are the people who currently have your cheque, registered email address and airways bill. Oops. That's right. Even if you put a phoney address on the FedEx packet they keep a record of exactly where it came from.

Just incase you missed it. Never phone me or email me again. This is now part of most car websites globally. I have done my part in letting people know about you and you scam.

Enjoy the rest of your freedom.

Kind regards,

Glen

Ps. You're not smart.

Luke

Glen "The Bitch"!!!

dosenöffner

Richard Askew

Nice one fella

Dr Hu

oooooohhhh! - Get you.....!

p.s hope he's not vindictive.....LOL

what would scooby do

Brilliant

RS2 JIM

iTrader: (5)

Glen,

i get the impression he's not all that smart......

Well done on catching him out. At least that's one less crim out of circulation hopefully.

I like you're style too. Makes for a great read!

Nice one.

James