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Old 28 July 2003, 01:24 PM
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Our 'friend' David Blunkett (Blindgit) is at it again [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

We will now have to pay £35 as part of a "drive for better compensation for victims of crime"

WTF does that have to do with a speeding offence which is a victimless 'crime'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3100229.stm

Old 28 July 2003, 01:31 PM
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Argh, tree-hugging PC nonsense hippy sandal wearing do gooding full of crap social worker parasite!!!!!!!!

The charity Victim Support said the compensation scheme was in desperate need of reform and whether or not a driver had caused injury was not the only issue.

"There never is a victimless crime, even if it is apparently innocuous, society is suffering from it.

"The driver may have got away with not killing somebody on this occasion, but easily could have done.

"We have always felt that crimes affect the whole of society and that society should respond to crime collectively."
Maybe we should be strung up for the potential deaths of millions everytime we **********?
Old 28 July 2003, 01:31 PM
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As per CWE, they do because they can. Did you expect any different from this Labour government? Brown's got to pay for his spending plans somehow...
Old 28 July 2003, 01:33 PM
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And WTF twisted PC logic is this:

The charity Victim Support said the compensation scheme was in desperate need of reform and whether or not a driver had caused injury was not the only issue.

"There never is a victimless crime, even if it is apparently innocuous, society is suffering from it.

"The driver may have got away with not killing somebody on this occasion, but easily could have done.

Never heard such rubbish in me life!!

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Old 28 July 2003, 01:40 PM
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with the RAC saying it was "unlikely to be welcomed by motorists".
no **** sherlock!


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Old 28 July 2003, 01:44 PM
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On that basis you may as well fine everyone the moment that they get on their car - they *might* end up killing someone, after all. What these people don't seem to understand is that speed limits are *arbitary*. You can still kill someone at 15 mph, and it will still be presumed to be the fault of the driver. Why don't they get it over with and ban cars altogether? They are just too dangerous, aren't they?

BTW I was there first, UB

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Old 28 July 2003, 02:12 PM
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I'd rather it was raised this way than through general taxation.
Old 28 July 2003, 02:17 PM
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Uncle Buck...for someone that once moaned about the BBC liscense fee you certainly seem to use bbcnewsonline a lot.
Having said that,you seem to moan about a lot of things if you as me.
Old 28 July 2003, 02:28 PM
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But surely victims of crime should be paid compensation by the person who commits it in the first place. Or is that logic too simple for Blindgit to understand.

Charlie - I wouldn't have seen it in there as I avoid the place these days.

paulr - where better for a good ol' moan than NSR?

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Old 28 July 2003, 02:32 PM
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this is fine by me......jack the fines up big time. they can also start cutting the hands of criminals.

you speed you break the law.....live with it or move or change the law.

dont sit around moaning that you cant stick to the law as it is yet cant be bothered to alter it.

personaly i dont agree with some limits but im to lazy to get involved so i'll stick the rules. if it bothered me that much i'd do something more procative.

T
Old 28 July 2003, 02:42 PM
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Tiggs - you know what comes before a fall, don't you?

Don't want to see another pslewis here...
Old 28 July 2003, 03:06 PM
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"Argh, tree-hugging PC nonsense hippy sandal wearing do gooding full of crap social worker parasite!!!!!!!!


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The charity Victim Support said the compensation scheme was in desperate need of reform and whether or not a driver had caused injury was not the only issue. "There never is a victimless crime, even if it is apparently innocuous, society is suffering from it. "The driver may have got away with not killing somebody on this occasion, but easily could have done. "We have always felt that crimes affect the whole of society and that society should respond to crime collectively."


What a load of complete load of utter w@nk this twaddle is, are they on drugs?

This is good enough to be a proper wind-up but i doubt it is, it's all about generating more money for a government who has not got a clue on how best to spend it.

Connemts from The charity Victim Support - Now there's a charity that i would normally give to without a thought. After this i would think twice about giving money to them if this is how they spend it on employing PC, liberal, do-godder monkeys who spout this rubbish.

Its all about getting money from people they can trace (through thier number plates) rather than real criminals.

No-wonder ther are more and more cars on false number plates, these idiots are making things worse for everyday people just trying to make a living and get on with their lives.

Ar$e!

[Edited by Paul Habgood - 7/28/2003 3:07:58 PM]
Old 28 July 2003, 04:02 PM
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It just means that the victims of crime can be paid damages by the only "criminals" that the Police can catch.

"We haven't got the resources to catch the bloke who burggled your house for your car keys and beat you up, but we did catch 62 people doing 86mph on the A127 near Southend so here's some compensation" [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Old 28 July 2003, 04:06 PM
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Just a link to the Northants Police mickey take thread, worth another look for sure.

http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?ThreadID=232095

Old 28 July 2003, 04:31 PM
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Old 28 July 2003, 04:36 PM
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I just can't believe that they can do this legally.

Les
Old 28 July 2003, 04:47 PM
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Les

If they can get away with turning a 22% increase in violent crime into a 2% reduction, due to a change in the way violent crime is reported, then they can sure as hell do this [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Old 28 July 2003, 06:13 PM
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Neil i did it so it would give you something to do to fill in the time whilst waiting for ya new mota, only a couple of days to go now isn't it?
Old 28 July 2003, 09:15 PM
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Do you think there will be a last minute rush on people speeding before the new tax is introduced?

UB
Old 28 July 2003, 11:49 PM
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Neil i did it so it would give you something to do to fill in the time whilst waiting for ya new mota, only a couple of days to go now isn't it?
hehehe good retort mate

It sure is - Friday's the day - wooooooooohooooooooo
Old 29 July 2003, 10:22 AM
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Surely these are two seperate issues if Victim compensation is underfunded then they should fund it from the central resources and if they belive that speeding fines are to low they should justify that.

As we all know the vast majority of speeding convictions are for victimless crimes and therefore they should target the people who cause the majority of victims e.g burglars and drug dealers etc! And Stop oppressing motorists because they can't be bothered to catch a criminal who does have a victim.
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Lol @ UB

Yes you are right Pete, this is the world of doublespeak and outright lies now.

Despite what other countries do in this respect and the fact that the economic chickens will soon be roosting, there is no way that this sort of money extraction can be justified.

Les

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