Americans have no sense of irony...
17 March 2003, 12:30 PM
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that is absolute class 
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Best quote ever about irony i have heard was by Eddie Izzard.
Achilles is talking to his mum who informs him of his special powers and his weak point.
so Achilles turns to his mother and says:-
"what Ive got an Achilles heel AND my names Achilles how ironic is that"
.Best quote ever about irony i have heard was by Eddie Izzard.
Achilles is talking to his mum who informs him of his special powers and his weak point.
so Achilles turns to his mother and says:-
"what Ive got an Achilles heel AND my names Achilles how ironic is that"
17 March 2003, 12:39 PM
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Can we have the argument about which lines in Alanis Morrisette's (crap) song Isn't it ironic are or aren't ironic? Please, please, I love this argument and have it at least 3 times a month with various ill informed friends, when drunk. Just to get the ball rolling; being called Achillies and having an Achillies Heel is *not* ironic. 
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17 March 2003, 01:08 PM
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hmph - looks like nobody want to play. Oh well, just have to play by myself.... [mutters]black fly in your chardonnay? what's so feckin ironic about that then? Nothing, that's what... [/mutters]
17 March 2003, 01:11 PM
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ProperCharlie,
Totally agree mate! I hate that song and you would have thought if you were going to write a song about it you'd at least learn the meaning of the word first.
"It's like a drawer full of spoons when all you need is a knife"
Nooooooooooooooooo! that's just unfortunate... it would be ironic if it later turned out that a spoon would have in fact worked! *tut*
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Totally agree mate! I hate that song and you would have thought if you were going to write a song about it you'd at least learn the meaning of the word first.
"It's like a drawer full of spoons when all you need is a knife"
Nooooooooooooooooo! that's just unfortunate... it would be ironic if it later turned out that a spoon would have in fact worked! *tut*
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17 March 2003, 01:21 PM
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OK, She wrote a song called "ironic" but she doesn't know irony what is. The girl is just too clever for us! She actually meant the song to be ironic not the lyrics therfore displaying a true understanding of irony. Either or she is just a silly cow.
17 March 2003, 01:25 PM
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It's definitely the latter, Mark... If she had ingeniously titled the song Isn't it UNironic then maybe she could have been excused... She's Canadian in any case, so there was never any hope for her right from the start.
17 March 2003, 03:11 PM
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None of it ironic, just a really bad day!!!
More of a bummer, rather than irony!!
An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
Isn't it ironic... don't you think
(chorus)
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
And who would've thought it figures
Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids good-bye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well, isn't this nice."
And isn't it ironic ... don't you think
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
And who would've thought it figures
Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
When you think everything's okay and everything's going right
And life has a funny way of helping you out when
You think everything's gone wrong and everything blows up
In your face
A traffic jam when you're already late
A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife
It's meeting the man of my dreams
And then meeting his beautiful wife
And isn't it ironic... don't you think
A little too ironic.. and yeah I really do think...
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
And who would've thought it figures
Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
And life has a funny, funny way of helping you out
Helping you out
More of a bummer, rather than irony!!
An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
Isn't it ironic... don't you think
(chorus)
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
And who would've thought it figures
Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids good-bye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well, isn't this nice."
And isn't it ironic ... don't you think
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
And who would've thought it figures
Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
When you think everything's okay and everything's going right
And life has a funny way of helping you out when
You think everything's gone wrong and everything blows up
In your face
A traffic jam when you're already late
A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife
It's meeting the man of my dreams
And then meeting his beautiful wife
And isn't it ironic... don't you think
A little too ironic.. and yeah I really do think...
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
And who would've thought it figures
Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
And life has a funny, funny way of helping you out
Helping you out
17 March 2003, 05:56 PM
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being called Achillies and having an Achillies Heel is *not* ironic.
1 an expression of meaning, often humorous or sarcastic, by the use of language of a different or opposite tendency.
2 an ill-timed or perverse arrival of an event or circumstance that is in itself desirable.
err
Ironic in the sense that he doesnt realise that he is the original Achilles.
pretty close in fact it fits *both* definitions DUH
this is part of the problem of Irony it is hard to define exactly and can have an esoteric perspective
[Edited by mattstant - 3/17/2003 5:59:07 PM]
18 March 2003, 10:59 AM
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hotsamYou *do* realise that "foundation" in Britain doesn't necessarily refer to where something originated? Your motif isn't suggesting that dental health originated in Britain per se (although it might have done for all i know!!) Is that why you think it's itronic?
18 March 2003, 11:05 AM
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Jesus wept don't you guys know your own stereotypes? It is said by the Americans for generations that the British have bad teeth. Yeah I hang about in American websites too.
18 March 2003, 11:10 AM
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Aha. Ok. But, being pedantic, that doesn't make the BDHF "ironic".
We might not have glistening white, straight as a die teeth, but that doesn't make them unhealthy.
See, another misinterpretation of "ironic"...!!!
We might not have glistening white, straight as a die teeth, but that doesn't make them unhealthy.
See, another misinterpretation of "ironic"...!!!
18 March 2003, 05:33 PM
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Jesus wept don't you guys know your own stereotypes? It is said by the Americans for generations that the British have bad teeth.
18 March 2003, 08:53 PM
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I think one reason we have bad teeth ('I cant believe you don't floss Diesel...') is that we are not allowed to put peroxide type bleach products in our chops in the UK. Those things are reserved for, ahem, restrooms where we live with our off-brown gnashers
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