CSA.....................advice
10 January 2003, 09:11 PM
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The CSA have just caught up with me,a girl from 15yrs ago has made a claim!Any advice ive just exchanged contracts on a larger house with a big mortgage......HELP
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11 January 2003, 09:11 AM
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I've never been in this situation. But I would speak to the citizens advice Bureau and see what they say. I would'nt go to the CSA as they are known for not giving all the best options off the bat. The CAB would probably just send you to the CSA, but it's worth a shot.
A paternity test would be a first port of call, and ask the question why after 15 years does the mother want you involved?
A paternity test would be a first port of call, and ask the question why after 15 years does the mother want you involved?
11 January 2003, 10:18 AM
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The mother has just remarried i think,i will try and trace her all i have is her name and my sons name,whats the best way to trace someone like fast?Maybe i could offer her a lump sum as i would have a bit spare from the new mortgage what would you do!!
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11 January 2003, 10:34 AM
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Pretty sure they can only make you pay from when a claim was made, ie if claim only just put in, then you have no obligation to make any payment for the last 15 years.
Like I say, I am pretty certain this is correct, but don't take is as gospel.
Like I say, I am pretty certain this is correct, but don't take is as gospel.
11 January 2003, 11:12 AM
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what a complete nightmare situation 
i not really sure how the CSA works, all i know is that once they are on the case then thats it... any chance of them leaving you alone is minimal, even with some agreement between yourself and the mother... the mother normally puts in a claim as they have threatened to withold benefit of somekind.
i know my friend made a claim against her ex hubby, who then forced a paternity test which proved the boy was his (of which there was no doubt anyway) and even though the CSA know where he lives/ works etc they have still not managed to get a penny from him as he refuses to fill out any forms it seems!
do you, or will you have any kind of relationship with the child? how do your family feel about all this? i cant imagine.
certainly try to contact the mother direct, see if you can sort something out, and why all of a sudden she has made this claim.
good luck
i not really sure how the CSA works, all i know is that once they are on the case then thats it... any chance of them leaving you alone is minimal, even with some agreement between yourself and the mother... the mother normally puts in a claim as they have threatened to withold benefit of somekind.
i know my friend made a claim against her ex hubby, who then forced a paternity test which proved the boy was his (of which there was no doubt anyway) and even though the CSA know where he lives/ works etc they have still not managed to get a penny from him as he refuses to fill out any forms it seems!
do you, or will you have any kind of relationship with the child? how do your family feel about all this? i cant imagine.
certainly try to contact the mother direct, see if you can sort something out, and why all of a sudden she has made this claim.
good luck
11 January 2003, 11:54 AM
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My longterm girlfriend is fine and supportive,possibly like a relationship with the kid,finacialy could cripple us as our new morgage payments are very high...............
11 January 2003, 12:16 PM
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aparently they can back date payments.... but not as far as 15years... after all they didnt excist 15years ago!
wish you all the luck with this one.... keep us updated with outcome
wish you all the luck with this one.... keep us updated with outcome
12 January 2003, 04:28 PM
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Don't give up. As suggested above go and talk to the Citizens Advice bureau. My experiences with the CSA are less than favourable, so do tread carefully.
From what I understand, if you have a big mortgage then that will be taken into account with any figures that the CSA may come up with.
If you can afford it, I would go and talk to a solicitor that specialises in family law.
Steve.
Don't give up. As suggested above go and talk to the Citizens Advice bureau. My experiences with the CSA are less than favourable, so do tread carefully.
From what I understand, if you have a big mortgage then that will be taken into account with any figures that the CSA may come up with.
If you can afford it, I would go and talk to a solicitor that specialises in family law.
Steve.
12 January 2003, 04:51 PM
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CSA = Biggest bunch of high school rejects ever amassed in a single place!
Mate loses a fair percentage of his take home to the CSA. But funny how his ex wife rarely allowing him to see his son never get mentioned by the CSA. Just pay the money. (Which incidentally I dont think gets spent on the boy at all. Just on a new kitchen/TV/computer whatever.)
To Huggy. Try and avoid the CSA at all costs. Remember they will also take your partners income into account and effectively take from her to provide for a kid thats not even hers!!! FFS
CSA I dont even have kids but I hate you with a passion!! They RUIN so many peoples lives because they are so up their own a***s they think the're in the right!!!
Mate loses a fair percentage of his take home to the CSA. But funny how his ex wife rarely allowing him to see his son never get mentioned by the CSA. Just pay the money. (Which incidentally I dont think gets spent on the boy at all. Just on a new kitchen/TV/computer whatever.)
To Huggy. Try and avoid the CSA at all costs. Remember they will also take your partners income into account and effectively take from her to provide for a kid thats not even hers!!! FFS
CSA I dont even have kids but I hate you with a passion!! They RUIN so many peoples lives because they are so up their own a***s they think the're in the right!!!
13 January 2003, 10:43 AM
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Any one got more experiences,what happens if i ignore the letter and disappear? Im moving address!i could change my name? or maybe i should fill the forms in and have done with it and probably loose my subaru or house or worse still my girlfriend.........
13 January 2003, 10:52 AM
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Unless the letter was recorded delivery, you could ignore it to gain yourself a couple of weeks.
BUT go and do all the suggested things above, seek legal advice etc.. so that when they write another letter (that will be re-directed to your new house) you are prepared.
You underestimate the power of the CSA. If you do not respond to them within a particular timescale (and number of letters), they will contact your employer and just remove contributions from your salary.
They are one scary agency.
Steve.
Unless the letter was recorded delivery, you could ignore it to gain yourself a couple of weeks.
BUT go and do all the suggested things above, seek legal advice etc.. so that when they write another letter (that will be re-directed to your new house) you are prepared.
You underestimate the power of the CSA. If you do not respond to them within a particular timescale (and number of letters), they will contact your employer and just remove contributions from your salary.
They are one scary agency.
Steve.
13 January 2003, 10:53 AM
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As stated above, go & see the CAB, don't bother trying to reach a direct agreement with the mother, the CSA have the power to over-rule any independent agreement. All they are interested in is recouping their outlay on your child, and as far as I am aware lack of prior knowledge of the child has no effect on whether they will back date your payments
But, as I have already said go & se the CAB, they are independent of the gov't and will advise you of the best course of action for YOU, not what is best in the interests of the CSA.
But, as I have already said go & se the CAB, they are independent of the gov't and will advise you of the best course of action for YOU, not what is best in the interests of the CSA.
13 January 2003, 11:14 AM
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Best thing for you to do is try to avoid the CSA at all costs. Get in touch with the other parent and try your hardest to come to some sort of amicable agreement.
If you've been out of the picture this long maybe she just wants a bit of help or maybe for the child to know its biological father.
Horrible situation to be in.
Hope it works out for you.
If you've been out of the picture this long maybe she just wants a bit of help or maybe for the child to know its biological father.
Horrible situation to be in.
Hope it works out for you.
13 January 2003, 11:45 AM
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Just been on to the help line aparently you only pay from when they caught up with you,he done a quick survey and said roughly it would be around 80 pound a week!I think i will be selling the subaru,and if i can i will stop my house move.....
13 January 2003, 12:06 PM
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Best thing for you to do is try to avoid the CSA at all costs. Get in touch with the other parent and try your hardest to come to some sort of amicable agreement.
Workmate ignored all the CSA's letters and was paying towards his child but they went to court wihout him and are mow stopping the money direct from his wages.
Huggy.
Double check that not taking on the bigger mortgage will leave you better off. I'm concerned that if you go for a smaller mortgage the CSA's formula will mean you have more disposable income and they will increase your payments.
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13 January 2003, 12:18 PM
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Best of luck m8, my ex wife has used them as a threat several times over the last couple of years. She has now threatened me with them again over the weekend even tho I am paying her as per our mutual agreement. I have been contacted by them several times and managed to get out of it by getting the ex to call them off, they are like a bunch of starving feking rottweilers who havent been fed for a month [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
They hated having to leave me alone but followed her instructions. If you can sort something out with this woman then do if it involves her calling them off.
As already said don't expect your money to be spent on the child, my money I give to my ex goes on new stereos, tellys, satellite systems, drinking down the pub, going out to dinner all the time with the bloke she ran off with, clothes etc etc. And she still keeps me to the absolute minimum contact laid down by the courts who are also a bunch of scum and sexist to the extreme, as far as they are concerned fathers have no rights unless you brought the child up at home instead of working [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] And this is after she took me for 50% of everything including the equity from the sale of the family house which she never paid a penny for.
If you can't come to an agreement with her then get advice from CAB AND a solicitor asap so you are not totally screwed over.
My son is only 5 so have another 13 years of this **** to go through. There are many of us out there and on this bbs, its a long suffering battle that you will never win unfortunately, the only thing you can aim for is damage limitation and access to your son. GOOD LUCK
They hated having to leave me alone but followed her instructions. If you can sort something out with this woman then do if it involves her calling them off.
As already said don't expect your money to be spent on the child, my money I give to my ex goes on new stereos, tellys, satellite systems, drinking down the pub, going out to dinner all the time with the bloke she ran off with, clothes etc etc. And she still keeps me to the absolute minimum contact laid down by the courts who are also a bunch of scum and sexist to the extreme, as far as they are concerned fathers have no rights unless you brought the child up at home instead of working [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] And this is after she took me for 50% of everything including the equity from the sale of the family house which she never paid a penny for.
If you can't come to an agreement with her then get advice from CAB AND a solicitor asap so you are not totally screwed over.
My son is only 5 so have another 13 years of this **** to go through. There are many of us out there and on this bbs, its a long suffering battle that you will never win unfortunately, the only thing you can aim for is damage limitation and access to your son. GOOD LUCK
13 January 2003, 12:46 PM
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Bravo2Zero - Jeesh do I hear what you're saying brother. Precisely the same boat.
Huggy - Think of Kyle in Terminator - "It doesn't feel fear, or pain, or remorse - and it absolutely will not stop" Thats the CSA. Get onto a decent family lawyer and they'll give you the best advice. You may be able to contest the claim - 15yrs seems a very long time to get tracked down in this poxy little country. DNA test is a definite. I think money worries are gonna be the least of your problems if the kid is yours.
Huggy - Think of Kyle in Terminator - "It doesn't feel fear, or pain, or remorse - and it absolutely will not stop" Thats the CSA. Get onto a decent family lawyer and they'll give you the best advice. You may be able to contest the claim - 15yrs seems a very long time to get tracked down in this poxy little country. DNA test is a definite. I think money worries are gonna be the least of your problems if the kid is yours.
13 January 2003, 12:50 PM
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Huggy, one thing that isn't clear, do you know the child is definately yours?
A mate of mine had a kid with a one night stand so he asked for a paternity test. The girl refused to go ahead with the test (clearly she wasn't sure the kid was his) so he didn't have to pay. He had to pay while he appealed, but got the money back after they decided he wasn't the father after all.
A mate of mine had a kid with a one night stand so he asked for a paternity test. The girl refused to go ahead with the test (clearly she wasn't sure the kid was his) so he didn't have to pay. He had to pay while he appealed, but got the money back after they decided he wasn't the father after all.