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Old 22 November 2002, 09:08 AM
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I want to establish communication between two cars and i don't know which is the way to go. VHFs need optical contact, i tried a set of PMRs but there was way too much interference with the engine running(maybe the certain set wasn't too good, i don't know),and CBs. Any Suggestions?? The range should be about 4-5 miles.
Old 22 November 2002, 09:11 AM
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How about 2 yoghurt pots and a 4-5 mile piece of string
Old 22 November 2002, 09:12 AM
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something more up to date???
Old 22 November 2002, 09:17 AM
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For that kind of range you will need PBR car mounted units & antenna on UHF. This will also require a license which can be a bit of a pain.

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Old 22 November 2002, 09:19 AM
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Or you could just buy a couple of mobile phones
Old 22 November 2002, 09:21 AM
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I have a greek radio amateur licence and i was told its valid in the UK cause both are European Union countries
Old 22 November 2002, 09:24 AM
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As regarding the mobile phones part, it comes a little expensive with two cars doing a 15 hour trip to greece.

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Old 22 November 2002, 09:36 AM
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In the UK you need to liecence the freqs when you but the unit otherwise it won't work.
Old 22 November 2002, 09:37 AM
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Phones are crap for most communication between cars as it takes too long to make contact - radios are much better because you just pick them up & talk.

I've got Motorola 6222 PMR's and they work perfectly - no interference at all. Legal to use throughout Europe too.

There's some more info Here
Old 22 November 2002, 09:38 AM
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you got those? i read a raving review about them yesterday, are they SO good?
Old 22 November 2002, 11:05 AM
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I have heard PMR has difficulty at times when in car, and range is only 2-3mls with good line of site.

A set of UK, CB handhelds will do a better job AFAIK but don't know about their legality abroad.

As for a UK licence it's a £10, but it's up to you, as I don't think they'll lock you up without one!
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The 6222's are the dogs - I'm well pleased with them - I've got 4 !

Car to car they are great, we use them when travelling in convoy so we're never that far apart that range becomes an issue.

Also, if you're into watersports like us, then there is a great case -

which is specially for the 6222 -


My kids (ages 4&6) use them too. Whenever we go anywhere crowded the kids get one each hung around their necks and they know to use it if they ever get lost. Also really neat when they are out on their bikes - I strap them to their arms so I don't have to yell at them when I want them to wait. We use them when out shopping and get seperated etc. etc. Once you've got them you find more uses for them.........

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When we travelled to Catalunya our group used PMR, Handheld and Mobile radios.

Mobile is significantly better than the other options and their easy of use/range make them the one to use for continental journeys.

Handheld cumbersome & dangerous unless used by co driver, PMR v.limited range 1-2 miles especially in car and through mountains.


Point to note:- couldn't get a quality signal from handhelds in a 911


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Banshi, what do you mean by "Mobile" ? Is that PBR or something else ? Do you need a licence for them ? Are they legal throughout europe ?

Al
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Ive you have a radio amateurs licence, then you should know that the only way you can use a pmr is if you convert it to a licenced band...

Depending on your licence, class A or B...

Most likely choices of band are 6m, 2m or 70cms

6m is a no go really for a car... Mind you can get mobile tri-banders. 2m is better due to range, and aerial size isnt bad.. Quarter Wave 50cms... but cant beat 70cms

I have a Yaesu FT51r Dual Band Hand held from when I used to be into it years ago...We were slightly different and blatently used DTMF Coded Squelch..

Id go for a stalker Gx ?? CB... Expand Every where from super super low to super super hi.. and a 'amplifier'

200w

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I really wish I could understand all that
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No licence needed for 446 Public Mobile Radio
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so CBs is the way to go...
Old 22 November 2002, 07:52 PM
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IIRC CB needs a licence in the UK
Not sure if they're legal in Europe
Much bigger if you want to use them for anything else

You pays your money and makes your choice.....
Old 22 November 2002, 08:56 PM
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Ok then, but do you know which is the cheapest place to buy couple of Motorola T6222
Old 22 November 2002, 10:50 PM
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"Cobra" Micro talk

GMRS 925 VPW / PR900DX
Get about 5-6 miles. $70 for a pair with batteries and chargers.

very good for the money.
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I got mine from Snow + Rock who were doing them for £50, but it looks like they've stopped now

The list price is £70 each, but street price seems to be £60. If you can't find them cheaper, then Radios UK are very good, I bought some 5522's from there once before. The 5522's are OK for what you want and they're only slightly bigger, I didn't like them because you couldn't lock the volume and my kids kept accidentally turning them down. The 5522's are £90 per pair.

I can bring 'em into London one day if you want to try them out.....
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Luke, will these work in cars? or there would be too much interference??
Old 23 November 2002, 09:07 PM
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They have worked well for me.. But an external ariel will always be better. Maybe a compact CB unit will suit you, They look well cool and then you can get 20 miles or so.
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