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Old 20 September 2002, 08:06 AM
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not sure what these are, anybody have a clue?

Went across a couple of sets this morning, they didn't look to be connected to anything?
Old 20 September 2002, 08:08 AM
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they are traffic flow measurement thingies (a technical term)
Old 20 September 2002, 08:38 AM
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to see where they should put speed bumps, atleast thats what they used them for around here
Old 20 September 2002, 08:49 AM
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The measure the speed of the traffic. Invariably you will find speed bumps appearing in the near future.
I have a road out side my house that was a nightmare for speeding traffic. It is a long straight, but 30 limit, needless to say the average speed along the road for most drivers was 50ish.
The black cables appeared and before long speed bumps. Excellent, the road is much safer now for all the kids that live in my area
Old 20 September 2002, 08:55 AM
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you gotta try living around york there is only one way out of where i live without going over a bump it takes you about 3 miles out of your way and that aint good when trying to get to work
Old 20 September 2002, 09:37 AM
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Watch out for cameras appearing where the black wires were as well
Old 20 September 2002, 09:38 AM
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They're traffic counters, used to count number of vehicles using a road/ area. The main use is supplying data for and proposed development in the area, eg if the new supermarket's/ housing development's traffic is going to upset any of the nearby junction, or for analysing any periodic gtowth trends.

Can also be used to see what peoples preferred routes are, and if through housing estates traffic calming may be implimented.

They don't measure speed, and don't work too well on roads where there is a lot of slow moving traffic, eg traffic jams.

Old 20 September 2002, 09:44 AM
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One cable - Traffic counters;
Two cables - speed measurements...

Doesn't nec. mean anything as all local govt. have to monitor sites accross there areas, someone makes a complaint - you have to measure the speed/number of cars if you don't have recent records to make a valid reply...

You should be more worried when you see the blokes in yellow jackets doing turning counts...more likley to be something happening then. Although this may also be annual monitoring

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Old 20 September 2002, 10:12 AM
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right *phew* so no brown envelop leading to a brown trouser moment then...
Old 20 September 2002, 10:14 AM
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Only worry about your speed if there are three cables. It could be Truvelo DS2 or Speedmaster. These are non radar/laser speedtraps.
Old 20 September 2002, 10:16 AM
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Bladerider

Police used/may still use pairs of cables accros the road to measure speed, three is correct fo Truvelo mind

[Edited by Paul Habgood - 9/20/2002 10:17:46 AM]
Old 20 September 2002, 11:42 AM
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Read an amusing response from South Africa once . Apparently, if you drive over these, and drag your handbrake on at the same time, it tears them off the road. Bet it would p*ss off the coppers too, if that's what they are.
And before anyone says it, I know it wouldn't work in a Scooby.
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Old 20 September 2002, 11:44 AM
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Whats thoses net things acroos motorways
Old 20 September 2002, 11:50 AM
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One cable - Traffic counters;
Two cables - speed measurements...
Not necessarily. Some have two cables so they know which way the traffic's going.
Old 20 September 2002, 12:03 PM
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they are normally there to catch power cables when doing repair work to pylons
Old 20 September 2002, 12:23 PM
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Ok - lets sort this out

They're not cables, they're tubes...they're connected to a little box at the side of the road...

one tube is a purely road traffic count, i.e. non-directional.

two tubes close together (within 10cm ish) these are directional counts - the box can tell which is hit first and therefore the direction of the cars travelling.

two tubes either 1m or 2m appart these are speed counts.

I could bore you with details about cables in the road and the disk counters you might see. However, the most interesting bit is if you see the speed counting on a fast bit of road - within the next couple of weeks you might be seeing a speed camera up there. i.e. after the police have had time to analyse the data

as Mike in our traffic monitoring department puts it: "if you see one of these on a fast bit of road, leave the speeding for a couple of weeks!"

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Old 20 September 2002, 12:30 PM
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You should be more worried when you see the blokes in yellow jackets doing turning counts
They turn up around here regularly, all sat in their cars. Driving round the block a few times seems to confuse them
Old 20 September 2002, 12:38 PM
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lol! Must try that next time!
Old 20 September 2002, 01:14 PM
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I'm sure our council 20 years ago wondered why there was so much traffic. On our way home from school each day me an my mate used to jump on them around 50 times each on the heels of our shoes. You could here the meter click each count.

These days kids go out and drink and trash things, but in those days things were simple.

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Old 20 September 2002, 11:15 PM
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In answer to Dnb's comment wouldn't putting cameras where the cables were be completely irresponsible and a waste of funding. Especially if the first one that hit the camera wasn't even speeding

Old 21 September 2002, 09:41 AM
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Many years ago i managed to 'bunny hop' the second one (speed trap) on my Yammy IT175, must have confused plod sat 200yds down the road
Old 21 September 2002, 07:18 PM
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People should drive over and reverse straight after, multiple times. That'll stuff the stats.
Old 21 September 2002, 07:26 PM
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DaveP: No wonder there are speed cameras, and bumps everywhere, It's all your fault you irresponsible g*t!!!
LOL: Alcazar
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