Do you hate work?
09 February 2002, 01:48 PM
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My 2p's worth.
I work for a company that is tighter than a nats chuff. FFS some users are still using p75s with 64 mb on nt4.
I know what everyone is on, by various means and it annoys me that some gits are on a lot more than my paltry £22k a year. No training, and getting **** upon all the time, but I cant move without gettin expereince of other stuff.
I used to work for 2 large multinationals and the pay was good but I had to leave (my reasons, not theirs). I was on more at 20 than I am at 25, now that sucks some.
Ps anyone got any good novell/groupwise/nt/fw1 jobs goin in the north west ?
Edit 'cause I forgot how old I was lol
[Edited by Stueyb - 9/2/2002 1:49:24 PM]
I work for a company that is tighter than a nats chuff. FFS some users are still using p75s with 64 mb on nt4.
I know what everyone is on, by various means and it annoys me that some gits are on a lot more than my paltry £22k a year. No training, and getting **** upon all the time, but I cant move without gettin expereince of other stuff.
I used to work for 2 large multinationals and the pay was good but I had to leave (my reasons, not theirs). I was on more at 20 than I am at 25, now that sucks some.
Ps anyone got any good novell/groupwise/nt/fw1 jobs goin in the north west ?
Edit 'cause I forgot how old I was lol
[Edited by Stueyb - 9/2/2002 1:49:24 PM]
30 August 2002, 10:16 AM
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Mine's not too bad - again the ludicrous amounts of money to surf the net and post on SN all day are a big bonus...as is the company car and the flexible working hours, good people... 
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30 August 2002, 11:45 AM
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Yep, I'm in IT. I'm a C++ developer.
Well, it's easy. I'm so sh*t-hot at what I do that I can cover all the necessary productivity requirements within the first half-hour of the day. Which leaves the rest of the day available for surfing, emailing, etc.
Being a contractor helps too - nobody expects me to do any useful work at all. 
what do u guys do, that u can get away with it??!?!
Being a contractor helps too - nobody expects me to do any useful work at all.
30 August 2002, 12:04 PM
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Raks - I work in a very specialised area of Telecommuncations.. So Specialised in fact that this company I now work for hired me 3 months before they needed to, just to make sure that they got me.
30 August 2002, 12:12 PM
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I think if you enjoy you job you are very lucky..
Other than paying to eat, if I didn't enjoy a job, I wouldn't do it. Life's too short to spend 8 hours a day hating what you do and wishing it was Friday....
30 August 2002, 12:19 PM
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Had two interests when I left school as a shy clue less kid..
Car and computers.. I wanted to be come a car mechnic.. my Dad pushed me into IT.. I am thankful he did as I have been able to spend some money on cars etc.. but I am bored and enjoy tinkering with my car and bike more in my spare time than I ever have at work doing IT... pays reasonably well.. in a bit of a hole though I cannot change to something else as my out goings are too high really.. wife and kid and house etc.. but you takes your choice...
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Car and computers.. I wanted to be come a car mechnic.. my Dad pushed me into IT.. I am thankful he did as I have been able to spend some money on cars etc.. but I am bored and enjoy tinkering with my car and bike more in my spare time than I ever have at work doing IT... pays reasonably well.. in a bit of a hole though I cannot change to something else as my out goings are too high really.. wife and kid and house etc.. but you takes your choice...
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30 August 2002, 12:21 PM
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exactly now you know why i hate my job !!! but its not too bad as i aint married or have any kids i have a bloke working with me who was on 14k with 2 kids a wife and a house now thats hard
i try to move to other jobs but they say why should we pay you 20k + if your only getting 15 now you cant be worth it
its not my fault i work for a company thats as tight as a ducks ring. its not a small company either part of the largest private group in the uk
i try to move to other jobs but they say why should we pay you 20k + if your only getting 15 now you cant be worth it
its not my fault i work for a company thats as tight as a ducks ring. its not a small company either part of the largest private group in the uk
30 August 2002, 12:24 PM
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Why are you telling the new company youy are on 15k?
Lie!!! say you are on 18k and would be happy to come and work for them for 20k... only way to get a decent pay rise in real time IT, or go contracting... although the market is dead at the minute and perhaps not the best time to be looking to do either IMHO...
JGM
Lie!!! say you are on 18k and would be happy to come and work for them for 20k... only way to get a decent pay rise in real time IT, or go contracting...
although the market is dead at the minute and perhaps not the best time to be looking to do either IMHO...JGM
30 August 2002, 12:25 PM
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i try to move to other jobs but they say why should we pay you 20k + if your only getting 15 now you cant be worth it
I always add £5/hour onto my rate when talking to agents or prospective clients - that way even if they don't offer you more money, you still get a rise on the sly. 
And if they make a comment like that, you need to be able to tell them why you're worth the extra money. Point out skills you have which are relevant (but unused in your current job). Make a point of showing evidence of your enthusiasm and dedication.
You've got to fight for the extra cash....
[Edited by MarkO - 8/30/2002 12:27:42 PM]
30 August 2002, 12:28 PM
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yeah i know they ask oh how much are you on at the minute and i dont think and just tell them.
i was asked the other day if i wanted to go for a job in doncaste paying 18K i said no women on the other end of phone said why not, i said it would cost me about 3k a year in petrol so i would be moving for no payrise and that just aint on
i was asked the other day if i wanted to go for a job in doncaste paying 18K i said no women on the other end of phone said why not, i said it would cost me about 3k a year in petrol so i would be moving for no payrise and that just aint on
30 August 2002, 12:30 PM
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LOL... MarkO - looks that way...
I am on a downer on work at the moment as I am 200miles away from home and the wife and kid all week.. doh..
but it pays the bills and all that..
Could be worse, I could be out of work..
JGM
I am on a downer on work at the moment as I am 200miles away from home and the wife and kid all week.. doh..
but it pays the bills and all that..
Could be worse, I could be out of work..
JGM
30 August 2002, 12:33 PM
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i mean i started building the damn things 11 years ago (im 22 now) started working in a computer shop at 15 on £50 pw and i have worked with them ever since. At the mo i look after 4 nt 4 servers 2 file print, 1 sql, 1 proxy/exchange, 170 users all to my self really oh and the telephone system and the photocopiers and anything else that might you electricity
30 August 2002, 12:37 PM
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i used to have a contractor helping me he was getting 12k a year he had only been in IT 6 months then 6 months after that he got a job paying 27k all he did was lie about every one of his skills. one of the big ones was citrix he had only read the white paper but said he had been using it for ages and various other things, really gets my goat does that
[Edited by dogmaul - 8/30/2002 12:37:46 PM]
[Edited by dogmaul - 8/30/2002 12:37:46 PM]