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Old 07 July 2002, 08:48 PM
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i could feed half my street with the amount of chinese food i could get for the cost of two friggin pizzas, so can anyone tell me why they cost so much in comparison to indian or chinese food?

be honest, as nice as it is, pizza is just soggy cheese on toast with a few bits on it!

oh, and has anyone noticed the bases from dominos are getting saltier by the week? (no rude jokes please )
Old 07 July 2002, 11:04 PM
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Indian food cheap because they reuse left overs(saw it on telly) and chinese use local cats for their meat(there always LOST cats posters around my local chinese) LOL
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Old 07 July 2002, 11:34 PM
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Oh, I dunno. Local pizza place does an 18" with one topping for £10 or an 18" with one topping, 3 bags of chips and a 1.5 litre bottle of Coke for £15. Seems pretty good value to me. Couldn't eat it all at once ....
Old 07 July 2002, 11:43 PM
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£22 for two large thin crust ham and pineapple pizzas from dominos. i think thats dear for cheese on toast
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Dominos arent exactly great pizzas but they usually do good deals most of the time like buy one get one free if you pick it up yourself. A filling pizza can be had for £7-£8 which is what a chinese would cost near me. Prefer chinese myself but eat at a good restaurant so takeway isnt quite as good after that.
Old 08 July 2002, 01:57 AM
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I work p/t for a well known Pizza establishment (:-]) and lets just say a £10 pizza costs them £1.60 to make including wages and delivery cost :-] enough said !
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avonvilla - what about other overheads? heating, cooking equipment, furniture, advertising, insurance, building rent. These all add up. Im not saying your figure is incorrect, just that the total cost to make a pizza isnt ust made up of the ingredients u use and how much it cost to deliver it to a customer.
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apparantley it is, thats what they reckon anyway, i've seen the profit and loss accounts for my store and we make approx 70% profit !
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Hmm time to move away from IT
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My little bro in law is a chef by trade, and rerckons that the biggest profits in the trade are made on cups of coffee, pizza, and ice creams, in that order.
I suppose they have to make a profit somewhere, as they must make a loss charging you £10 for a piece of fillet steak you could buy in Asda's for £5????????????
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if you really want to see greed then for example one portion of potato wedges at £2.95 to you, the bag we get them in will do 20 portions and costs us £1.85 !!! garlic bread is just as bad too !!
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P1Fanatic,

Were's the best place for Chinese in Cambridge then?
Old 08 July 2002, 01:22 PM
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Same as Brum, on a plate...
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but its no more greed on the part of "the hut" and the rest than it is lazy on our part.

i could go to asda and get a pizza for a lot less but it wuld take time and effort- i'd rather pizza hut and their mini streethawk bring it to me.

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lol coffee - starbucks mocha at £1.99 or something for the smallest one (tall?). Probably costs them less than 30p all in per cup.

Slowboy - dont know about the best but its very nice - The Phoenix in Histon. No where near as good as the restaurants in Londons ChinaTown. Mmmm I remember the BBQ Crispy Duck starter at New World Chinese
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lol tiggs, mini streethawk Out of all the franchise pizzas I do like Pizza Huts Deep Pan Supreme. Always tastes better than the frozen/fresh ones you get at the Supermarket IMHO.
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There are 4 pizza joints near where I live, down slade road in brum.

All of them offer a large pizza with 3-4 toppings for about a tenner. And *all* have a buy-one-get-one-free policy!

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The Hut near me is always so greasy that the box is soggy.

IMO, Dominoes are the daddy. Tops Pizzas are pretty good value.
Old 08 July 2002, 02:15 PM
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Pizza Hit/ Pizzaland/ Dominos all seem to come with soggy thick bases that are bad enough when made and twice as bad once they've sweated for 10-15 minutes in a moped's panier. Pizza Express is definitely the best of the chains.

I'm lucky enough to have a small family owned place round the corner that does proper bases and delivers them hot.
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There are 4 pizza joints near where I live, down slade road in brum.
Is 'The Great Wall' house still there? Used to live off food from there when i lived up the Stockland!
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On the subject of buy one get one free, i phoned two pizza places last night thta both do an offer like this, and got quoted 1 1/2 - 2hrs delivery!!!

So it was £17 for two regular Hawians and a gralic bread from local pizza chain instead.
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>>Is 'The Great Wall' house still there? Used to live off food >>from there when i lived up the Stockland!

Yeah - great food!!!

Still prefer the mayflower in erdington. There must be about 18 or so food joints down slade road - the council were on about denying more licenses as we have enough to feed most of the borough from one road!!
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Pizza Express is the best, yes, but my local one doesn't deliver
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pizza hut on the shinfield rd in Reading is very good- never more than 25mins from order to tucking in.

T

had a nasty human hair/domino commbo problem a while back so only use the hut now.
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Avonvilla

Sure of your numbers there? I get very frustrated when a company that makes a good product gets slated for being "rip-off merchants".

I don't work for your company - I work for PizzaExpress - but I clearly know the industry. I don't know of anyone who makes that much in terms of margin.

To give you an idea of our finances, we had a turnover of £185.6m in the 12 months to 30 June 2001, and made a profit of £40.0m. Then we paid tax - £10m of it - giving a net return of £30m. A lot of money, sure, but not as much as the "well-known pizza establishment" you work for.

Overall, we made a margin of 16.1%, or, if you prefer, £1.25 on a £9.00 pizza. Nothing wrong with that, is there? After all, there's no point in us being in business if we can't make a profit.

Maybe we spend too much on the ingredients (all delivered fresh) or spend too much time making pizzas (all hand made on the premises). Could even be that we train staff too thoroughly (but then we want the product and service to be excellent). We could also stop refurbishing our restaurants on such a regular basis, not put fresh flowers on the tables, serve crappy wine (which we could get a MUCH better margin on) rather than quality stuff ... the list goes on.

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Have never been to Pizza Express but hear a lot of good comments about it so will have to get down to my local one soon.
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  • Pepperoni
  • Jalapeno Peppers (or Chillies)
  • Onions
  • Green Peppers
  • Mushrooms
  • Finished with a little bit of Garlic

...and cooked until the cheese is nice and brown. Yummmmmmmm.

...Oh, and swilled down with a few cans of export lager. Heaven

This is one aspect of life even Tony Blair and his Police state can't make rubbish - although a european pizza tax looks likely. Computerised vans will try to catch you eating them if you don't pay


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