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Old 21 June 2002, 06:10 PM
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Hi,

I'm going to put together a letter/fact sheet to send to my MP and anyone else I feel apropriate, so I'd like some facts and figures please.

If you have links to sites etc where I can find figures for stuff like, accidents where speed was to blame, non driver fault accidents, proof to say cars a good safe thing, public transport is crap and not a viable alternative, government spending on roads/ public transport and such like, I'll include them in my letter. ( phew, is that the longest sentence ever!)

Also, I'll try write it out so it's not centred around one recipiant, so if anyone else wants a copy to send to their MP, blanks can be filled in.

Lets see if we can do something to stop this anti car movement[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Cheers, Bob

PS, my email addy is in my profile if you don't want to use the board
Old 21 June 2002, 06:14 PM
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oh, I'll have a word about about bikes using race cans and spangly visors aswell if you like
Old 21 June 2002, 06:42 PM
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http://www.abd.org.uk/ a good place to start Bob.
Old 21 June 2002, 07:13 PM
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Bob,

join the ABD as well!!

Their newsletter is an eye-opener to say the least!

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Old 21 June 2002, 09:51 PM
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Bob

Following on from some of the recent posts about speed cameras, "entrapment" and the general attitudes of the police and government towards drivers, I have been thinking about something similar myself.

I was wondering if we could come up with some sort of common complaint, and then present that as a group to the government - with several thousand members hopefully, the Scoobynet community could have more influence than a few lone voices.

Of course, saying "We want to get rid of speed cameras cos they keep costing us 60 quid" is going to get nowhere, but if we can come up with some sort of constructive argument, reasoning and maybe even suggestions, then maybe that will have more effect.

For example, a number of people have said that it isn't speed that kills - it's poor driver education. If we were to present this argument, with any statistics that back it up, and indeed some ideas towards dealing with the problem, then I feel that would be viewed with more interest.

Hope this helps.
Old 21 June 2002, 09:58 PM
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SWRTWannabe,

THAT is what the ABD is all about.

Please take some time to check out their web-site at http://www.abd.org.uk/ and see for yourself.

The ABD is getting more and more recognition and press coverage, and the more members the better!!

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Old 21 June 2002, 09:59 PM
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Cheers chaps, I'll have a look at the ABD after BB

SWRT, that's exactly what I was thinking! There's no point just saying stop catching people speeding cos it's crap! We need facts to back up our argument. Speed camera's have their uses, we should argue to have them moved into area's where they might be some use, ie outside schools.

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Old 21 June 2002, 10:39 PM
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A few starters...

http://www.abd.org.uk/rigging_the_evidence.htm - scary!
http://www.abd.org.uk/speedobj.htm - have your say.
http://www.abd.org.uk/motorwayspeedlimit.htm - common sense!
http://www.abd.org.uk/london_camera_lie.htm - and it has got worse since!
http://www.abd.org.uk/one_third.htm - the biggest lie!

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Old 21 June 2002, 10:42 PM
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<put's brace on clicking finger>
Cheers Martin
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...and not forgetting...

http://www.abd.org.uk/speed_camera_signs.htm

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Old 21 June 2002, 11:02 PM
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boomer - "the biggest lie!"

nice one..!

Old 21 June 2002, 11:28 PM
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That's the letter sussed then, dear MP, please see www.ABD....

I'm begining to think one letter from me isn't gonna achieve a great deal, still, it can't do any harm, can it?

Bob
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