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Old 26 July 2017, 01:29 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nned-2040.html
Old 26 July 2017, 05:34 AM
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We'll see.
Old 26 July 2017, 06:18 AM
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And I thought you meant for Scoobynet! Sorry but that ship has already sailed.
Old 26 July 2017, 06:22 AM
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Better start building dozens of new power stations now then.
Old 26 July 2017, 06:33 AM
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New cars ' built' in 2040 ?

So you can still drive any car built over the next 23 years ?

Why are these things always proposed by people who live in London and ride bikes?!
Old 26 July 2017, 07:07 AM
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Some sad **** who thinks it will make a difference. What about the bigger countrys usa, china, russia?
Old 26 July 2017, 07:48 AM
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We were supposed to be enjoying a Mediterranean climate here in the South by now

They cocked that up as well



Ironic really, cos if we'd fcuked up the climate more we'd have more sunshine to top up all those batteries.

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Old 26 July 2017, 07:56 AM
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Its the future: Moving the problem of pollution elsewhere

Be it generation or the hazards of production and disposal of chemical (battery) storage.

The real solution as always is to reduce the requirement to transport long distances...i.e live near where you work. etc etc. and tax the hell out of commuters for the privilege of private transport which also reduces congestion. Of course the like of the Fail and the wonders of Westminster love to tout about banning things. Ban this Ban that; they'll ban acids, and keep alkalines legal until they realise that burns as well

In other news: Commercial jet engined aircraft to be banned by 2060 and oil burning container ships banned by 2070

Diesel trains won't be banned though...since we've scrapped electrification I blame Brexit. Or it could be all the carcinogens in the air has affected the thinking of pundits and politicians alike


On that note, I'm off to gas myself in a filthy workshop, I won't be back for any sarcastic retorts.

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Old 26 July 2017, 08:17 AM
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23yrs I doubt that very much... it takes that long to build ONE power station from inception to it actually providing any power... what are there like 30 million vehicles on the road... going to take quite a few power stations to fuel that lot... and what about all the batteries required... where are they coming from, how they being made and what happens to them when they've died.

All well and good coming up with a "green" transport solution but what about the associated carbon footprint for us to get there.

Wouldn't surprise me if in a few years time they discover that we're actually better off staying as we are, or no doubt going back in the next century once the battery manufacture, disposal and charging associated pollution has been factored in.
Old 26 July 2017, 08:55 AM
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I have a petrol hybrid currently, soon to add an electric town car, followed next year by electric commuter car(200 miles of range) Solar system on order 5kW to offset charging costs. I will then begin to sell off hybrid and remaining petrol transport in the coming years.
I've found even with a very limited range(20 miles) about 80-90% journeys are solely battery. I've only filled the petrol tank a few times in 18 months of ownership.

Next year will see a number of manufacturers bring out their affordable commuter EVs for sale, Jaguar, Volvo, Nissan, Hyundai, Tesla
Old 26 July 2017, 09:00 AM
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I'm just guessing you wont have to dangle a power lead across the pavement to charge her up Andy
Old 26 July 2017, 09:29 AM
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Is nuclear now green ?

Mybe only if its French , convenient cos that's where we'll be buying our leccy ?

Quite how that sits with all yo brexiteers I'm not sure
Old 26 July 2017, 09:38 AM
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Jeeeesus, do you bring Brexit into everything?
Get over it FFS.

Why would it matter whether we are in, or out of The EC if we are buying goods, or selling goods? We aren't part of the USA, but can still buy stuff from them....
Old 26 July 2017, 09:41 AM
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Ahhh yes , lots chlorinated chicken !
Old 26 July 2017, 09:59 AM
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I live in a gated country manor house, several miles from the road. I dont see street charging a problem once the authorities get a move on and allow charging points to be installed
Old 26 July 2017, 10:01 AM
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Never ever going to happen unless hydrogen fuel cells come on line.
Old 26 July 2017, 10:04 AM
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Since there is very little free hydrogen gas, hydrogen is in practice only an energy carrier, like electricity, not an energy resource.[2] Hydrogen gas must be produced, and that production always requires more energy than can be retrieved from the gas as a fuel later on.[3] This is a limitation of the physical law of the conservation of energy. Most hydrogen production induces environmental impacts
Old 26 July 2017, 10:17 AM
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I think you need ask yourself , would Tesla be half so 'successful' if it were based in Yorkshire
Old 26 July 2017, 10:31 AM
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Why can't they bring E85 over here if there that worried
Old 26 July 2017, 10:33 AM
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Will never happen. All the car industry has to do is give a collective `No`


All the British population has to do is not buy these things
Old 26 July 2017, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by seanvx
Why can't they bring E85 over here if there that worried
and chop down a bit more rain forest ?
Old 26 July 2017, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
I think you need ask yourself , would Tesla be half so 'successful' if it were based in Yorkshire
Where I live out in the sticks, I've seen plenty Tesla X models. I'd have one tomorrow if I didnt have Gulwing/Falcon doors
Old 26 July 2017, 01:09 PM
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I don't see the problem, Nissan have already produced Zero Emission cars, because it says so on the side and back, so why don't we all buy them? Are they powered by Fairy Dust?
Old 26 July 2017, 01:10 PM
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Not surprised , only rich person could afford run one !

and this isn't where theyre needed - its in the middle of the city where theyd be any benefit
Old 26 July 2017, 01:21 PM
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Aint gonna happen, power network couldn't cope with the extra demand, technology has a long way to go to be viable and its an EU directive that will be fobbed off when we leave in 2 years time.

Short version, slow news day, press making a mountain out of a mole hill
Old 26 July 2017, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Aint gonna happen, power network couldn't cope with the extra demand, technology has a long way to go to be viable and its an EU directive that will be fobbed off when we leave in 2 years time.

Short version, slow news day, press making a mountain out of a mole hill
A lot of things change in 20 years, especially technologically.

As for fobbing it off in 2 years, doubt it.
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nuclear fusion just round the corner .... hahaha
Old 26 July 2017, 04:18 PM
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A cottage industry in Flux Capacitors beckons, methinks......
Old 26 July 2017, 04:24 PM
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Its all politics

maybe well do some carbon offsetting for trump , so he can reopen some mines , and we get better trade deal
Old 26 July 2017, 05:12 PM
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Can't see it happening at all. With other countries stating the same ban the demand for electricity will far outstrip supply not to mention the huge amount of infrastructure needed.
They need to tackle air travel pollution and manufactuering/shipping emssions rather than worry about cars. Do they even take into account the emssions for mining the minerals neded in batteries? I read that the emissions producing one electric car is the same as running petrol car for 8 years!
More than likely that another deep recession globally will put pay to these ideas.



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