General election 8th june
#4
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It's irrelevant who I vote for as Dennis Skinner is one of the candidates in my constituency and he always wins at General Election time. Until he steps down, or the voting system changes, Bolsover will always be Labour.
#5
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didn't they recently loose a couple of constituencies that were supposedly slam dunks?
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#10
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Yup, it was too good an opportunity to miss given the mess labour is in.
However things like this can often backfire. The country may not like her calling an election when not very long ago she ruled it out as it wasn't in the best interests of the UK to have yet another election.
In addition if Labour and the Lib Dems both came out as pro remain parties then they might get a decent look in. That's on the assumption that the lazy remoaners who couldn't be bothered to vote last time actually get out of bed this time!
However things like this can often backfire. The country may not like her calling an election when not very long ago she ruled it out as it wasn't in the best interests of the UK to have yet another election.
In addition if Labour and the Lib Dems both came out as pro remain parties then they might get a decent look in. That's on the assumption that the lazy remoaners who couldn't be bothered to vote last time actually get out of bed this time!
#11
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Funnily enough I posted on her facebook feed last week after she announced her latest plans for the future, that she should perhaps seek a mandate before enacting them! Seems for once she actually listened! :P
Still, she should have done this before enacting article 50! Now that's another 2 months of the already short 2 year period of negotiations where nothing is going to get sorted!
As for winning, yes, it currently looks like the Conservatives will walk it, but a lot will depend on different parties stance on Brexit. I wouldn't rule out the Lib Dems taking a reverse Brexit stance and stealing many seats from both Conservative and Labour!
Still, she should have done this before enacting article 50! Now that's another 2 months of the already short 2 year period of negotiations where nothing is going to get sorted!
As for winning, yes, it currently looks like the Conservatives will walk it, but a lot will depend on different parties stance on Brexit. I wouldn't rule out the Lib Dems taking a reverse Brexit stance and stealing many seats from both Conservative and Labour!
#12
It is a shrewd move by the PM for sure. There is no opposition in Westminster for a snap GE from any of the parties. Polls are running high for the Tories and there are no real viable opposition to the Conservatives which gives the party the potential for a massive majority win. Also polls in Scotland shows a slide in support for the SNP and growing support for the conservatives and if the SNP lose their majority or even lose their hold in Scotland, that would mean the end of Scottish Referendum2.
Also a number of countries in the EU will also be holding their own general elections this summer so there will be a lull in the negotiations for Brexit so the timing is good and a win would give May a full 5 year term to fully implement the Brexit process.
Having said that, history has shown us to never trust the polls!!
Also a number of countries in the EU will also be holding their own general elections this summer so there will be a lull in the negotiations for Brexit so the timing is good and a win would give May a full 5 year term to fully implement the Brexit process.
Having said that, history has shown us to never trust the polls!!
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#16
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Seems like a waste of time and resources, just wanting to push the majority to the max to carry brexit over the line
The Tory's will **** home as they say
The Tory's will **** home as they say
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I'll vote for ANYONE apart from May. I think she's caught the Turkish bug
May is dragging us down a path we never voted for and will NEVER achieve what she says.
That liberal chap - Farrow? - talks sense.
What I would like to happen but know it won't would be for May to get her come uppence big time with a decent sprinkling of liberals who will join forces with Scotland, NI and the youth of Britain to put an end to the Brexit farce.
David
May is dragging us down a path we never voted for and will NEVER achieve what she says.
That liberal chap - Farrow? - talks sense.
What I would like to happen but know it won't would be for May to get her come uppence big time with a decent sprinkling of liberals who will join forces with Scotland, NI and the youth of Britain to put an end to the Brexit farce.
David
#21
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My guess is the whole campaign will come down to Brexit choice with Conservatives campaigning for Hard Brexit, Labout for Soft Brexit and Lib Dems for No Brexit! It could split the country three ways and may well get another hung parliament!
I don't think Labour can win at the moment. Corbyn is too weak and their voters are heavily split between hard Brexit and remain, so he can't win either way! Conservatives are maybe being too cocky, at lot of people will see the cynical side of calling an election with a 20 point lead. They'll likely gain a lot of votes from the UKIP crowd, but also loose a lot of votes from more liberal Conservatives that don't want Brexit. If we see a youth rebellion, then the Lib Dems stand to gain a lot and recent by-election results have also tended to favour the Lib Dems, so they stand to be the biggest gainers in the election, although its unlikely they can win. If we had a proportional representation system, then the result could be really interesting!
At the moment, my money is on the Conservative gamble going Pete Tong and there being a huge backlash resulting in a hung parliament with Conservatives the largest party.
I don't think Labour can win at the moment. Corbyn is too weak and their voters are heavily split between hard Brexit and remain, so he can't win either way! Conservatives are maybe being too cocky, at lot of people will see the cynical side of calling an election with a 20 point lead. They'll likely gain a lot of votes from the UKIP crowd, but also loose a lot of votes from more liberal Conservatives that don't want Brexit. If we see a youth rebellion, then the Lib Dems stand to gain a lot and recent by-election results have also tended to favour the Lib Dems, so they stand to be the biggest gainers in the election, although its unlikely they can win. If we had a proportional representation system, then the result could be really interesting!
At the moment, my money is on the Conservative gamble going Pete Tong and there being a huge backlash resulting in a hung parliament with Conservatives the largest party.
#23
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Yes, but with a 2/3 majority vote in the house of commons they can call an early election! Its important on such constitutional matters to have the protection of a clear majority vote to ensure its for the good of the country.... oh ****, wait a minute!!!
#24
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Labour support the move + the Tory majority = Early Election vote wins.
The Lords need a wake up call.
The Widow Krankie as been blind sided but needs to get her own house in order first.
The Own Agenda ***** need to shut the funk up and get on with getting us out.
It will be interesting how many Remainer MP get in if their constituants voted out, a couple of Welsh Labour MPs will be in a flat spin now.
The Lords need a wake up call.
The Widow Krankie as been blind sided but needs to get her own house in order first.
The Own Agenda ***** need to shut the funk up and get on with getting us out.
It will be interesting how many Remainer MP get in if their constituants voted out, a couple of Welsh Labour MPs will be in a flat spin now.
#25
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You seem quite sure the Scots will continue to vote for the SNP when the majority don't want to leave the UK, so maybe they vote Tory instead ensuring there will be no second referendum and the idiot Sturgeon has nowhere to go. Maybe then she will concentrate on her real job rather than losing focus continuing with the 2nd referendum argument.
One thing is for sure they wont clean up this time and will lose seats.
One thing is for sure they wont clean up this time and will lose seats.
#26
Talking to an old man in the bar today and he said "I used UKIP but there job is done so I'm going to vote conservative as May is very clever. We can't vote labour as they will let all the immigrants in".
This is what we are dealing with on a vote, why is racism such a pressing thing with people?
This is what we are dealing with on a vote, why is racism such a pressing thing with people?
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My guess is the whole campaign will come down to Brexit choice with Conservatives campaigning for Hard Brexit, Labout for Soft Brexit and Lib Dems for No Brexit! It could split the country three ways and may well get another hung parliament!
I don't think Labour can win at the moment. Corbyn is too weak and their voters are heavily split between hard Brexit and remain, so he can't win either way! Conservatives are maybe being too cocky, at lot of people will see the cynical side of calling an election with a 20 point lead. They'll likely gain a lot of votes from the UKIP crowd, but also loose a lot of votes from more liberal Conservatives that don't want Brexit. If we see a youth rebellion, then the Lib Dems stand to gain a lot and recent by-election results have also tended to favour the Lib Dems, so they stand to be the biggest gainers in the election, although its unlikely they can win. If we had a proportional representation system, then the result could be really interesting!
At the moment, my money is on the Conservative gamble going Pete Tong and there being a huge backlash resulting in a hung parliament with Conservatives the largest party.
I don't think Labour can win at the moment. Corbyn is too weak and their voters are heavily split between hard Brexit and remain, so he can't win either way! Conservatives are maybe being too cocky, at lot of people will see the cynical side of calling an election with a 20 point lead. They'll likely gain a lot of votes from the UKIP crowd, but also loose a lot of votes from more liberal Conservatives that don't want Brexit. If we see a youth rebellion, then the Lib Dems stand to gain a lot and recent by-election results have also tended to favour the Lib Dems, so they stand to be the biggest gainers in the election, although its unlikely they can win. If we had a proportional representation system, then the result could be really interesting!
At the moment, my money is on the Conservative gamble going Pete Tong and there being a huge backlash resulting in a hung parliament with Conservatives the largest party.
You seemed conveniently to have forgotten that the country voted for Brexit, and the reason the Tories have a 20 point lead is the 'opposition' is weak and unsupportable. You may well wish for the Tory gamble to fail but save your money, or lose it.
#29
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Very shrewd move from Teresa May, wee Nicola Nesbitt up here has really been outsmarted.
SNP will never retain the same number of seats and any loss will point towards a tailing off of support for another referendum.
I can see both Tory and Labour gains in Scotland.
Hopefully this will be the beginning of the end of the deranged woman's career.
SNP will never retain the same number of seats and any loss will point towards a tailing off of support for another referendum.
I can see both Tory and Labour gains in Scotland.
Hopefully this will be the beginning of the end of the deranged woman's career.
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#30
I was in New York a couple of years ago and did the eliss island tour. It's full of pictures and quotes from people in the early 1900's and everything they said then about the Chinese taking all there jobs is exactly what people are saying now with another race. People's fear of immigrants taking jobs has been going on hundreds of years and will go on for hundreds of years more, they just need to stop being idiots and just accept the world needs migration.