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Old 15 April 2017, 09:41 PM
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Don't think kids know whether Edinburgh is in the North or South as it is.lol.

I do use sat nav if I'm lazy. Still prefer to glance at a map and know roughly where I'm giong and what roads. Normally just scribble the roads and junctions down.

Think its a really bad idea. But hey ho
Old 15 April 2017, 10:08 PM
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Also added parking in a bay, given how many trips use satnav now a days then i dont think its a bad thing. Alot more relevant to todays world
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Not so sure. Think sat nav makes all of us a bit lazy,not more alert. Only IMHO.lol
Old 16 April 2017, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
Not so sure. Think sat nav makes all of us a bit lazy,not more alert. Only IMHO.lol
Bit hard to read a map on your tod
Old 16 April 2017, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Bit hard to read a map on your tod
thats what the the parking spots are for
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Before sat navs came along I usually got to my destination by using a map to plan my way, get in the area and ask local filling station for directions worked a treat

Nowadays just like all gadgets and tech makes us lazy and anti social face to face all keyboards and touch screens with the tinternet

Just my 20p's worth
Old 16 April 2017, 08:27 AM
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A positive step as most drivers cant navigate properly these days. More importantly drivers should be taught how to respect other road users, mainly vulnerable ones.


More worryingly when a copper doesn't even know the highway code.


Highway Code rule 163
Old 16 April 2017, 10:00 AM
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The best thing about my satnav is the camera warnings; it's too easy to do 35 in a 30 limit, and around here that's 3 points. The second best thing is the traffic alerts and diversions, saved me from many hours of traffic jams.
Old 16 April 2017, 11:19 AM
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They might try teaching them how to look before changing lanes, how to judge the speed of other vehicles and that the indicator is not a magical talisman to ward off collisions !

Oh wait...................

That is all the people that are already driving around on UK roads !
Old 16 April 2017, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
Not so sure. Think sat nav makes all of us a bit lazy,not more alert. Only IMHO.lol


Originally Posted by ZANY
Before sat navs came along I usually got to my destination by using a map to plan my way, get in the area and ask local filling station for directions worked a treat

Nowadays just like all gadgets and tech makes us lazy and anti social face to face all keyboards and touch screens with the tinternet

Just my 20p's worth
In addition to 'lazy' and 'anti-social' points, I reckon these gadgets, although they save time and make people's life much easier, they may be affecting human's brain gymnastics capability. Calculator is also a mind disabling device, if not anti-social. Ask people to add 346.20 to 179.51 without a calculator. Most would want to take their phone out to use their calculator app. Hardly anyone does any math now; just with the assistance of their own brain.
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You shoudnt need tomtom to tell you how to drive


should be second nature slow down when you see street lights
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as pissy would say , whilst still on his original brake pads
Old 16 April 2017, 10:03 PM
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I think there is a bit of an art to interpreting sat nav instructions and being in the right lane for the next instruction. I'm all for making the test harder based on the idiots I see on the roads these days and that is just the instructors...........
Old 17 April 2017, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
Not so sure. Think sat nav makes all of us a bit lazy,not more alert. Only IMHO.lol
This IMHO they should be making sure people can read and interpret the road properly before they even think about using a sat nav. You see far to many people dithering about weaving between lanes because they have no idea where to go unless the sat nav tells them.

Originally Posted by Paben
The best thing about my satnav is the camera warnings; it's too easy to do 35 in a 30 limit,
i love that reasoning.

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Originally Posted by neil-h
i love that reasoning.
Neil, you would have been in your high school when we had a gadget called Snooper to clock the speed cameras. I bought one for my scooby for 300 quid. I also had Tracker fitted on annual subscription to my scoob, in them days. I look back and feel like an idiot, because scoobs are hardly that valuable now.

Snooper did help, though.
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wasn't snooper the one that used to have a fun habit of picking up the sensors for auto opening doors?
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Originally Posted by neil-h
wasn't snooper the one that used to have a fun habit of picking up the sensors for auto opening doors?
I don't know if mine did that, but I used to feel something amazing for having that. Like some fun loving criminal who had a pricey gadget, to have one over the cops.

Now I feel terribly embarrassed at the thought of it.
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Have to say I didn't realise highway code states a bicycle requires a car width to be overtaken , thus two abreast cyclists cannot be overtaken on road with parked cars therefore

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Originally Posted by dpb
Have to say I didn't realise highway code states a bicycle requires a car width to be overtaken , thus two abreast cyclists cannot be overtaken on road with parked cars therefore
Really? It's quite a recent addition, there was all sorts of fuss made about it
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Well that's the logical conclusion isn't it ?
Old 18 April 2017, 07:44 AM
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Personally I think a nav lets you concentrate on driving rather than faffing about with directions and signs.

I use Waze on my iphone which is just brilliant. Voice activated too so no touching the phone and will reroute around traffic much better than any other system.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
This IMHO they should be making sure people can read and interpret the road properly before they even think about using a sat nav. You see far to many people dithering about weaving between lanes because they have no idea where to go unless the sat nav tells them.



i love that reasoning.
To be fair, most Navs warn you when your speeding at any time you exceed the limit, be that with a noise or some kind of visual alert. Works well when you don't know the area.

Also the point of the cameras is to slow you down, the Nav achieves this and even if you only slow down for camera locations, that includes where cameras could be.
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You shouldn't be slowing down just for the camera.!
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Originally Posted by dpb
You shouldn't be slowing down just for the camera.!
No but for those that speed this slows them down.
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Originally Posted by dpb
Have to say I didn't realise highway code states a bicycle requires a car width to be overtaken , thus two abreast cyclists cannot be overtaken on road with parked cars therefore


It is so infuriating when an obvious safety manoeuvre is regularly ignored just so a vehicle drive can get in front. Another one is driving close behind a cyclist, one mistake from the cyclist the driver will likely run over them..Back off wait for a safe suitable gap the overtake without racing by.




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