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Old 04 January 2017, 06:26 PM
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Default Will the recent police shooting in Bradford result in another riot?

Ingredients seem to be there for another riot. Guy with a gun in his car, formally arrested for criminal activity etc. The usual chav photos stood in front of nice cars showing off wealth.

Obviously we don't know why the police shot this guy at the moment, but I feel the longer the unanswered questions, the more likely friends and associates (lots wearing balaclavas on the news just now - why the need to hide their faces?) will start smashing the town up..

This will indeed divide opinion but the shooting of popular gangstas usually results in trouble.

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Old 04 January 2017, 06:44 PM
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Let's be honest about this. To an absolute tiny minority of people, it's 'police brutality'. To just about everyone else in the country, it's justice.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Old 04 January 2017, 06:59 PM
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Doesn't this happen everyday in Manc ?

most peoples point reference will be that cop killer thug
Old 04 January 2017, 07:28 PM
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Here we go.....
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Originally Posted by skoobidude
Obviously we don't know why the police shot this guy at the moment,
they "stopped" the car because they had intel he was carrying a firearm

so at a basic level he was shot because the police believed he had a firearm and was going to use it

I think they have found a fireman nr the scene
Old 04 January 2017, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
they "stopped" the car because they had intel he was carrying a firearm.

I think they have found a fireman nr the scene
Poor fireman - wonder what he was doing there?
Old 04 January 2017, 09:11 PM
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Looks like there is a wider area investigation. Not getting caught does not mean you are innocent.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38509806

Naz Shah, hardly a paragon of community spirit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36802075
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A riot in mid-winter, with daytime temperatures barely above freezing and the sun going down before tea-time? I'd say the odds are slim to very unlikely. Those balaclava-wearing wannabe gangsters really aren't as hard as they make out.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
they "stopped" the car because they had intel he was carrying a firearm

so at a basic level he was shot because the police believed he had a firearm and was going to use it

I think they have found a fireman nr the scene
Originally Posted by steve05wrx
Poor fireman - wonder what he was doing there?
I read hodgy's post before, and was trying to work out the relevance of a fireman near the scene. I've been a bit slow, so just worked it out!
Old 04 January 2017, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Peedee
Let's be honest about this. To an absolute tiny minority of people, it's 'police brutality'. To just about everyone else in the country, it's justice.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Agreed....!
Old 04 January 2017, 10:21 PM
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The shooting was in Huddersfield btw.
Old 05 January 2017, 03:36 AM
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Tin foil hat on.

It's just a race bait. They get us all fighting each other and then we ignore what the government does as the focus isn't on them. Just how the got the snooper charter through when Trump got elected.
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Goes with the territory, if you're going to go about waving guns at people and acting like you're a bad a$$ gangsta from da hood sooner or later you're going to attract the attention of the boys in blue, and we all know their gang is bigger and better armed than some dodgy car dealing wanabe Al Pachino

By way of sending a message to any other wanabe bad a$$e$ they shoot first and ask questions later, which to be fair in this day and age of brown boys chopping peoples heads off, blowing things up and driving lorries into crowded places is to be expected really.

Zero tolerance I believe is what they call it or basically **** with us and we're gona pop a cap in yo a$$!

As for the riots, as above, too cold for all that bollocks.
Old 05 January 2017, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Goes with the territory, if you're going to go about waving guns at people and acting like you're a bad a$$ gangsta from da hood sooner or later you're going to attract the attention of the boys in blue, and we all know their gang is bigger and better armed than some dodgy car dealing wanabe Al Pachino

By way of sending a message to any other wanabe bad a$$e$ they shoot first and ask questions later, which to be fair in this day and age of brown boys chopping peoples heads off, blowing things up and driving lorries into crowded places is to be expected really.

Zero tolerance I believe is what they call it or basically **** with us and we're gona pop a cap in yo a$$!

As for the riots, as above, too cold for all that bollocks.
Hmm. I agree if you have a gun your up to no good generally, although I think guns should be legal but that's for another day.

So say your a brown guy and you wasn't doing anything wrong you deserved to be shot because other brown people have done bad things?
Old 05 January 2017, 09:19 AM
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"Stop The Killings" - made me laugh, its not exactly USA is it? 5 since 2009? As opposed to 5+ this year already in America?

Did I see a Don't Shoot banner as well? PMSL
Old 05 January 2017, 09:23 AM
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Its awesome seeing the closet bigots come out on your friends list on FB and various pages, when incidents like this happen. Ditchy so us brown people are all deserve to be shot due to the actions of a select few nice
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Minorities gonna minority.

Justice for Yasser? Yes, I'd say he got justice. Just not the good kind.
Old 05 January 2017, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Its awesome seeing the closet bigots come out on your friends list on FB and various pages, when incidents like this happen. Ditchy so us brown people are all deserve to be shot due to the actions of a select few nice
As you know I'm brown as well, so imo it's not the smartest thing to go about the place acting like a bad a$$ gangster / possible terrorist with guns, we get enough $hit as it is without pinning a target on ones back and giving them an excuse to fill us full of lead.

I travel a reasonable amount average around 10 flights a year so I tend to bare this in mind tbh and don't do anything that may attract attention beyond the norm, I usually get stopped enough as it is and they always scan MY passport and pick at the edges as well as have a good old thumb through it, suppose it doesn't help that I've been to places like Kashmere, India, Turkey and Tunisia all of which I think is recorded as they seem to spend extra time looking at their screens after scanning my passport.

So yeah I do think us brown people need to be a little bit more careful.

Sad but true.

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It was interesting that his hard core mates all hid behind balaclavas when they attacked the lone copper in his car.

Real f@cking hardmen
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I am sure he was a very nice chap, perhaps with some minor issues like dealing in hard drugs and killing people - where's the harm in that?


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Originally Posted by Dblock
Hmm. I agree if you have a gun your up to no good generally, although I think guns should be legal but that's for another day.

So say your a brown guy and you wasn't doing anything wrong you deserved to be shot because other brown people have done bad things?
As above in my reply to banny, it's not the smartest thing to do in the current climate where anyone of colour is yet again in the eyes of those supposedly protecting our freedom a possible target.

I always try and look at things from both sides of the situation and the sad truth is, that's just the way it is, if people of colour don't want to or can't recognise the possibility then their stubborness or stupidity is possibly going to find them on the receiving end of this sort of thing.

Not saying it's right or wrong, it just is what it is.

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This isn't to do with race at all. An idiot carrying a gun, obviously a coward who has to carry a weapon, was caught and shot.
Anyone remotely defending him and not commending the police for being brave and confronting an armed plastic gangster should be ashamed of themselves.

Anyone who see's this as anything other than a triumph might want to take a long hard look at themselves as they're probably the ones with the issues when it comes to racism.
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And if you think that didn't play a small part in the situation then more fool you.

Simple fact is it's the times we live in, my comment was about colour not race.

FYI last time I checked there was only one race, we're all Humans.
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Honestly, brown or pale white, pink or black, who cares! If you do something wrong, you should be nailed for it, full stop.
It is still unclear why the Police had to open fire at him, though. Does the illegal possession of a fire arm mean getting definitely shot by police, or should police try their utmost to catch you before they pull the trigger? Or, was he wavering the fire arm at the police and acting all Don from his Audi hence shot? I think we need to wait for some concrete evidence-based statement from the police, then only we will know what happened.

Daily Mail types are painting him as a Don, whereas his dad and distraught mum on Sky news are vouching for his goodness.

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The point I was making and I'm sure those with a more well rounded perspective will agree, is that in the current climate it is not really sensible for anyone to be waving guns about the place, EVEN MORE SO if your appearance puts you into a category that the Police are already on guard and actively looking for, how do they know what the guy is capable of after he's already been the subject of criminal proceedings regarding the discharge of a firearm in public.

At the end of the day scum is scum and it would appear the streets are a somewhat safer place after the removal of this man from society.

And I'll say it again for the hard of reading, if anyone thinks that wasn't discussed as a possibility then please send me a PM telling me where you live because I'd like to move there and live alongside you in the bliss of a beautiful world where none of this sort of stuff happens.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
As you know I'm brown as well, so imo it's not the smartest thing to go about the place acting like a bad a$$ gangster / possible terrorist with guns, we get enough $hit as it is without pinning a target on ones back and giving them an excuse to fill us full of lead.

I travel a reasonable amount average around 10 flights a year so I tend to bare this in mind tbh and don't do anything that may attract attention beyond the norm, I usually get stopped enough as it is and they always scan MY passport and pick at the edges as well as have a good old thumb through it, suppose it doesn't help that I've been to places like Kashmere, India, Turkey and Tunisia all of which I think is recorded as they seem to spend extra time looking at their screens after scanning my passport.

So yeah I do think us brown people need to be a little bit more careful.

Sad but true.
It's like having an Irish accent any time between 1968 and 1998 on the UK mainland, when the killing stops (sic) then you are accepted.

The tiny minority completely f$ck it up for the majority.
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Shame the police didnt do the same in this situation...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-jo-***-murder



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