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Old 11 September 2015, 03:36 PM
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Are you for or against it?
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are we to post on both threads ?
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
are we to post on both threads ?
If you wish.
Old 11 September 2015, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
are we to post on both threads ?

I suppose it helps if you're in two minds on the subject...
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For. Strongly so.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
For. Strongly so.
Me too.
You wouldn't allow a dog to suffer, so why put a human through unnecessary suffering
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Originally Posted by urban
Me too.
You wouldn't allow a dog to suffer, so why put a human through unnecessary suffering
Dogs don't choose to be put down.

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They don't choose to be pets either
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Originally Posted by dpb
They don't choose to be pets either
I wonder if they choose to be dogs, even
Old 11 September 2015, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Dogs don't choose to be out down.
Either way, you wouldn't allow it, or any other animal to suffer for years
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I'm all for it.
In fact I've come across a few folk in my time for whom I think it should be compulsory
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
I'm all for it.
In fact I've come across a few folk in my time for whom I think it should be compulsory

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a very tricky subject

I suspect it sort of works "ok" as it is (in an imperfect world)

so I would have to be strongly persuaded a "law" is required
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How does it work OK? It's not allowed, and if you help someone, you get arrested.
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When my mum was fighting cancer she asked me 'if the worse case scenario '
Would I open all her medication for her and leave her til the following day.....

I told her hand on heart I would but I'd stay with her....**** the consequences
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
I'm all for it.
In fact I've come across a few folk in my time for whom I think it should be compulsory
Me too and while there at it bring back the birch and cat o nine tails.

And yes I'm all for it, I don't really see a reason against it, especially if it's a strongly held belief that pre-dates any illness. All my family and friends have been told to pull the plug on me if the worst come to the worst, I don't want to live like some sort of cabbage in a chair with people wiping my **** for me, same as I don't want to go through a long agonising drawn out drug induced death.

Pop a cap in my *** I say.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
How does it work OK? It's not allowed, and if you help someone, you get arrested.
I suspect that doctors already administer "pain relief" in the last stages of palliative care - that to all intense and purposes hastens death

I don't know of course - and luckily have not had to test it

How many have been actually arrested and convicted?

Lots of things can "potentially" get you arrested etc

Posession of cannabis springs to mind - again have no real knowledge, but suspect being caught with a little has been to all intense and purposes "legalised"

But obviously it is a very difficult (and personal) subject with blurred lines and no simple right or wrong answer
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The b@stards have thrown it out, despite 82% of those polled saying they supported it.

But these idiots would rather listen to the Archbishop of fairytales.........
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yes 100% people should not be made to suffer when its obvious they have no chance of survival,and have said goodbye to all family members, my gran held on for several days in drug induced agony, until we went against family request and took my dan to visit, she was supposed to be out of it on drugs, but was seen to clasp his hand and her facial expression changed from pained to a smile, he said goodnight grangran sleep tight when we left to go home, she passed less than 15mins later, when we were on our way home, he may be autistic and didn't fully understand, and she may of been out of it on drug's but i like to think she held on until she had said all her goodbyes
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I'm sure MPs thought long and hard about this before deciding. Ascertaining the mental condition of the potential suicide would be required, probably endless paperwork that would have to be completed perfectly or a murder charge would follow, plus the insurance implications. Then the problem of the non compliant 'suicide' being persuaded by dodgy relatives to end it all against their will, endles other possibilites to be considered. I wonder how other countries deal with all this?
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Yes for it here too, why should someone have to suffer in pain when they are near the end anyway, as long as they can make the choice then it should be allowed.
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What would insurance company's views be on this as most don't pay out on suicide, I would imagine some would withhold pay-outs on some cases.

Not being heartless but this could bear a big financial impact on the family's left picking up the pieces.

I have told my wife if I cant wipe my own **** I don't want to be here. I am all for it, but for some it could be deemed assisted suicide.
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For.
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AGAINST.

Thin end of the wedge. It would, in my opinion, become less of a choice to be put to death than an obligation. There are enough deaths already at the hand of "Mistakes". Put this into the mix and the financial pressures will win out. Retired? Cost a bit of £ on Meds? Taking a pension? You're dead mate.
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Originally Posted by daviee
What would insurance company's views be on this as most don't pay out on suicide, I would imagine some would withhold pay-outs on some cases.

Not being heartless but this could bear a big financial impact on the family's left picking up the pieces.

I have told my wife if I cant wipe my own **** I don't want to be here. I am all for it, but for some it could be deemed assisted suicide.
THIS ALSO

Insurance companies already look for the smallest reason to avoid paying out. This will be a windfall for them.
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Daviee. Invest in a bog like the Japanese have. It shoots a fountain of water up your jacksee then dries it with warm air. I've heard that it's bloody good. Might need a light dusting after but better than having to crack a crust to lay a cable.
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Having had Cancer twice there is no way I want to lay in bed kicking and screaming in agony fighting for every breath.....I have told Mrs B that if I was told I had 6 months to live I would try and wait until I knew things were starting to happen and then I would pop out for "A Sunday Drive"........There needs to be safeguards that greedy relatives cannot persuade a rich Grandparent/Parent/Uncle/Aunt that its time to go but there is no dignity in death with the way some of these diseases take their course.


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