What Harry Potter Is Actually About. Childhood Ruined
05 June 2015, 09:43 AM
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I've heard some cool theories about popular films and TV shows but this one is pretty poo. The Simpsons one is better..
For a show that has been going for 25 years and developed the kind of fan base The Simpsons has, there's going to be some crazy fan theories going around.
One though may just change the way you view the programme forever. It actually makes sense.
Redditor Hardtopickaname has an unusual but possibly perceptive idea.
In October 1992, the episode 'Homer the Heretic' was first aired. It saw Homer deciding to boycott attending church, but the episode finished with a key scene that saw him talking to God.
Homer: God, I gotta ask you something. What’s the meaning of life?
God: Homer, I can’t tell you that.
Homer: C’mon!
God: You’ll find out when you die.
Homer: I can’t wait that long!
God: You can’t wait six months?
Homer: No, tell me now!
God: Well, OK. The meaning of life is…
Remember that bit? "You can't wait six months?" Well six months later, in April 1993, the episode "So It's Come To This: A Simpsons Clip Show" was aired. In this, a prank goes very wrong, as Bart shakes up one of Homer's beer cans, only for it to blow up the house.
Homer seems fine after the incident, however when he is in hospital, a vending machine falls on him and places him into a coma. He eventually wakes up by the end of the episode but the theorist believes this is too sudden a recovery and thinks something else is going on.
He states that Homer hasn't woken up from his coma and everything that has happened since, is his imagination.
This is why the characters don’t age. Homer remembers Bart, Lisa, and Maggie as 10, 8, and 1 year old, so they will always appear that way in his dreams. He is subconsciously aware of time passing, so his mind will often “update” his memories so that the year they occurred matches up with the age he thinks he is (eg. That 90’s Show contradicting other flashback episodes).
As evidence, he states after that episode, the tone of the show changes. Storylines become a lot more surreal such as: Homer goes to space, Maggie shoots Mr. Burns and Homer works for Scorpio, which sees him ending up owning the Denver Broncos. This is also apparently the reason for all the celebrity cameos.
People in comas can sometime hear what people in the same room are saying. While Homer wouldn’t physically react, his mind processes that information and includes it in his dreams.
The theory is summed up by stating that it all shows the meaning of Homer's life: to entertain.
Does this theory make sense? Has the last 15 years of The Simpsons all been in the head? Or do some people think about TV shows a bit too much?
For a show that has been going for 25 years and developed the kind of fan base The Simpsons has, there's going to be some crazy fan theories going around.
One though may just change the way you view the programme forever. It actually makes sense.
Redditor Hardtopickaname has an unusual but possibly perceptive idea.
In October 1992, the episode 'Homer the Heretic' was first aired. It saw Homer deciding to boycott attending church, but the episode finished with a key scene that saw him talking to God.
Homer: God, I gotta ask you something. What’s the meaning of life?
God: Homer, I can’t tell you that.
Homer: C’mon!
God: You’ll find out when you die.
Homer: I can’t wait that long!
God: You can’t wait six months?
Homer: No, tell me now!
God: Well, OK. The meaning of life is…
Remember that bit? "You can't wait six months?" Well six months later, in April 1993, the episode "So It's Come To This: A Simpsons Clip Show" was aired. In this, a prank goes very wrong, as Bart shakes up one of Homer's beer cans, only for it to blow up the house.
Homer seems fine after the incident, however when he is in hospital, a vending machine falls on him and places him into a coma. He eventually wakes up by the end of the episode but the theorist believes this is too sudden a recovery and thinks something else is going on.
He states that Homer hasn't woken up from his coma and everything that has happened since, is his imagination.
This is why the characters don’t age. Homer remembers Bart, Lisa, and Maggie as 10, 8, and 1 year old, so they will always appear that way in his dreams. He is subconsciously aware of time passing, so his mind will often “update” his memories so that the year they occurred matches up with the age he thinks he is (eg. That 90’s Show contradicting other flashback episodes).
As evidence, he states after that episode, the tone of the show changes. Storylines become a lot more surreal such as: Homer goes to space, Maggie shoots Mr. Burns and Homer works for Scorpio, which sees him ending up owning the Denver Broncos. This is also apparently the reason for all the celebrity cameos.
People in comas can sometime hear what people in the same room are saying. While Homer wouldn’t physically react, his mind processes that information and includes it in his dreams.
The theory is summed up by stating that it all shows the meaning of Homer's life: to entertain.
Does this theory make sense? Has the last 15 years of The Simpsons all been in the head? Or do some people think about TV shows a bit too much?
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05 June 2015, 09:51 AM
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on the recent 40th anniversary of Jaws
Mark Kermode, who has written about the film before, suggesting the shark was a metaphor
that Jaws was a morality tale, about infidelity and what the nature of being a "man" is
he had interviewed Steven Spielberg and presented these interpretations
"no" Spielberg said - "its about a fvcking shark"
you can read whatever you want into most things
Mark Kermode, who has written about the film before, suggesting the shark was a metaphor
that Jaws was a morality tale, about infidelity and what the nature of being a "man" is
he had interviewed Steven Spielberg and presented these interpretations
"no" Spielberg said - "its about a fvcking shark"
you can read whatever you want into most things
05 June 2015, 09:51 AM
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I've only seen the first movie and read none of the books, but on the face of it, it sounds a very well thought out theory, and the pieces to seem to fit together, and how the last part ties it together at the end.
To the fans, what is the commonly thought meaning behind that last discussion in Kings Cross?
To the fans, what is the commonly thought meaning behind that last discussion in Kings Cross?
05 June 2015, 10:07 AM
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I think some people think too much and have rather a lot of spare time, do some people really care that much about all this sort of crap.
I recently went to Harry Potter world or whatever it's called, good day out for my lad but bloody hell is stuff expensive there, Plastic wand for £25 and that was a cheap one
T-shirts were stupid prices, why they don't make stuff reasonably priced and sell a bucket load, even the butter beer was stupidly priced.
I just don't get the rape em mentality at these sort of places, plain stupid as 90% of the "captives" bought nothing.
I recently went to Harry Potter world or whatever it's called, good day out for my lad but bloody hell is stuff expensive there, Plastic wand for £25 and that was a cheap one
T-shirts were stupid prices, why they don't make stuff reasonably priced and sell a bucket load, even the butter beer was stupidly priced.I just don't get the rape em mentality at these sort of places, plain stupid as 90% of the "captives" bought nothing.
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05 June 2015, 12:32 PM
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Interesting thread.
If Harry Potter is a super delusional story about insanity, why do we induce this pathology in our children in nano dosages when we tell them that there's a father flipping Christmas and tooth waggling fairy residing somewhere other than in our own mind, and we project them on to your children; only for them to introject this bull and learn to build castles in the air!
IMO childhood is not at all ruined with the notion of Harry Potter as so atypically imaginative character. But if that's what's being proposed as one of the theories about it, then one needs to remember that a lot of great works in the field of the literature have been fictional, and the theory of mental illness can be applied to all far fetched superb fiction; some of that e.g. science fiction is rejoiced by the adults as well in readings and on cinema screens. Extra ordinary tales told by the extra ordinary characters will sound insane to the ears of the ordinary listeners.
If Harry Potter is a super delusional story about insanity, why do we induce this pathology in our children in nano dosages when we tell them that there's a father flipping Christmas and tooth waggling fairy residing somewhere other than in our own mind, and we project them on to your children; only for them to introject this bull and learn to build castles in the air!
IMO childhood is not at all ruined with the notion of Harry Potter as so atypically imaginative character. But if that's what's being proposed as one of the theories about it, then one needs to remember that a lot of great works in the field of the literature have been fictional, and the theory of mental illness can be applied to all far fetched superb fiction; some of that e.g. science fiction is rejoiced by the adults as well in readings and on cinema screens. Extra ordinary tales told by the extra ordinary characters will sound insane to the ears of the ordinary listeners.
06 June 2015, 07:47 AM
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Interesting theory, I'm not sure I buy it though
I have watched the films and something hasn't sat right with me about the whole thing but I can't put my finger on it.
A bit like return of the Jedi
I have watched the films and something hasn't sat right with me about the whole thing but I can't put my finger on it.
A bit like return of the Jedi
06 June 2015, 10:45 AM
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on the recent 40th anniversary of Jaws
Mark Kermode, who has written about the film before, suggesting the shark was a metaphor
that Jaws was a morality tale, about infidelity and what the nature of being a "man" is
he had interviewed Steven Spielberg and presented these interpretations
"no" Spielberg said - "its about a fvcking shark"
you can read whatever you want into most things
Mark Kermode, who has written about the film before, suggesting the shark was a metaphor
that Jaws was a morality tale, about infidelity and what the nature of being a "man" is
he had interviewed Steven Spielberg and presented these interpretations
"no" Spielberg said - "its about a fvcking shark"
you can read whatever you want into most things
06 June 2015, 10:50 AM
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It's like I have always wondered about Shakespeare that if he were to be able to be alive today and listen to all these academics going on and on about the hidden allegorical meanings of his plays would he just say, for instance, 'Thou art talking sh1te, it's about 2 people that fall in love and their families don't like it, that's all!'
06 June 2015, 11:01 AM
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Think someone else wrote all Shakespeare's stuff :-)
And Crocodile Dundee is about the menopause. Brilliant!
07 June 2015, 12:10 AM
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What does she know about it?
It's like I have always wondered about Shakespeare that if he were to be able to be alive today and listen to all these academics going on and on about the hidden allegorical meanings of his plays would he just say, for instance, 'Thou art talking sh1te, it's about 2 people that fall in love and their families don't like it, that's all!'
It's like I have always wondered about Shakespeare that if he were to be able to be alive today and listen to all these academics going on and on about the hidden allegorical meanings of his plays would he just say, for instance, 'Thou art talking sh1te, it's about 2 people that fall in love and their families don't like it, that's all!'
07 June 2015, 10:15 AM
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07 June 2015, 09:05 PM
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exactly!! Some peoples interpretations are far too subjective and far reaching. Funny though. F1, you would have soooo much fun in US with these morons. I' trying to do it as best I can, in your place, lol
Wish I could make the face to face meet up, it would be a blast!
07 June 2015, 09:11 PM
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exactly!! Some peoples interpretations are far too subjective and far reaching. Funny though. F1, you would have soooo much fun in US with these morons. I' trying to do it as best I can, in your place, lol
Wish I could make the face to face meet up, it would be a blast!
Seriously, hope you can make (to) the meet, even if you can't make it up
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08 June 2015, 08:28 AM
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08 June 2015, 09:26 AM
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If you really want to see it taken to an absurd level
Look at the guys who interpret films that they show predict future events
Back to the future, was really a warning about 911!!!!!!
http://youtu.be/uPJQ-1Y8jfY
Look at the guys who interpret films that they show predict future events
Back to the future, was really a warning about 911!!!!!!
http://youtu.be/uPJQ-1Y8jfY
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13 June 2015, 07:37 PM
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lol, re meetup, depends where I am, time difference is a bit of an issue and I try and get out and about at the weekend in Dallas. Thanks for the invite to make a virtual appearance though!
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Yep, been here most of this year, over in Texas. May or may not be here for a couple years, still figuring that out.
lol, re meetup, depends where I am, time difference is a bit of an issue and I try and get out and about at the weekend in Dallas. Thanks for the invite to make a virtual appearance though!
lol, re meetup, depends where I am, time difference is a bit of an issue and I try and get out and about at the weekend in Dallas. Thanks for the invite to make a virtual appearance though!
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