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Old 24 March 2015, 01:55 PM
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Default Sadly another Airbus A320 Crash

RIP all those who have lost their lives, Thoughts are with the families.
Old 24 March 2015, 02:05 PM
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for those interested, radar data below

Radar data suggest the aircraft had reached FL380 about 3minutes prior to leaving FL380 and descended from FL380 through FL110 in 8 minutes (average rate of descent 3375 fpm). The aircraft appeared to have levelled off at FL068 for one minute while on a northeasterly heading of 26 degrees true, mountains rise up to 8900 feet about 1nm north of the last reported aircraft position.

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Old 24 March 2015, 02:27 PM
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Just seen this on the news. Horrific accident
Old 24 March 2015, 02:37 PM
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Where was that and which airline.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32030270
Old 24 March 2015, 02:48 PM
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Seems no images from crash site yet as it's so remote.

Why "another A320 crash" i think these aircraft have a good record?
Old 24 March 2015, 02:53 PM
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Because there is a gazzillon of them flying every day, somethings got to give sooner or later.
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Originally Posted by matt-c

Why "another A320 crash" i think these aircraft have a good record?
How about Air Asia that impacted the Java sea on 28th December 2014








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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Because there is a gazzillon of them flying every day, somethings got to give sooner or later.
Exactly so overall they have a great record, this is weird because it made it to cruise altitude ok, decent was not fast so stall not implied. Double engine fail extremely unlikely.....

Apparently distress call was sent, but i don't think the detail of that have been released.
Old 24 March 2015, 03:18 PM
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^ no distress call from the aircraft, looks like the ATC raised the distress call when they lost contact with the aircraft.

A320 does have a good safety record, I'm more concerned about the whole control system used by all the Airbus aircraft.

PPRUNE is the place for the latest developments.
Old 24 March 2015, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Because there is a gazzillon of them flying every day, somethings got to give sooner or later.
A couple of incidents and accidents in the last year, note the amount of engines shut down in flight...



GermanwingsA320 near Barcelonnette on Mar 24th 2015, lost height and impacted terrain

AirCanada A320 near Calgary on Mar 19th 2015, both ECAM displays went blank

LingusA320 near Santiago de Compostela on Mar 17th 2015, first officer incapacitated

EasyjetA320 at Paphos on Jan 7th 2015, Alpha Floor Activation on approach

JetblueA320 at New York on Mar 17th 2015, smoke in cockpit

HermesA320 at Lyon on Apr 11th 2012, unstabilized approach, dual input, descendedbelow safe height

TigerA320 near Adelaide on Mar 15th 2015, electrical odour in cabin

LufthansaA320 at Frankfurt on Mar 14th 2015, unsafe gear

BritishAirways A320 at London on Mar 12th 2015, engine shut down in flight

VuelingA320 near Barcelona on Mar 12th 2015, hydraulic failure

BritishAirways A320 near London on Dec 18th 2014, fumes in cockpit and cabin

LANA320 at Cordoba on Mar 8th 2015, rejected takeoff due to instrument problems

FrontierA320 at Washington on Mar 8th 2015, bird strike

AegeanA320 near Split on Mar 6th 2015, turbulence injures 3

DeltaA320 at Managua on Mar 6th 2015, could not fully retract landing gear

SichuanA320 near Jinan on Mar 5th 2015, cargo fire indication

EdelweissA320 at Zurich on Mar 5th 2015, gear problem on departure

OnurA320 at Amsterdam on Mar 3rd 2015, rejected takeoff due to door indication

AirFrance A320 at Hamburg on Mar 28th 2012, ILS and flight director disagree andresult in Alpha Floor Activation

JetstarA320 at Sydney on Jul 28th 2014, departed with incorrect takeoff configuration

AustrianA320 at Bucharest on Feb 19th 2015, unsafe gear

EasyjetA319 near Manchester on Feb 17th 2015, smell of fumes

VivaColombiaA320 at Bogota on Feb 4th 2015, engine shut down in flight

AtrakA320 near Tehran on Feb 15th 2015, engine shut down in flight

CondorA320 near Lisbon on Jan 18th 2015, first officer incapacitated

LingusA320 at Dublin on Feb 12th 2015, smoke indication in cabin

LANA320 at Bucaramanga on Feb 7th 2015, cleared to land despite aircraft on runway

IndonesiaAsia A320 over Java Sea on Dec 28th 2014, aircraft lost height and impactedwaters

LufthansaA320 near Moscow on Nov 17th 2012, fumes on board

GermanwingsA320 near Lyon on Feb 2nd 2015, unusual odour on board

JetstarA320 at Coolangatta on Feb 3rd 2015, engine problems

FlynasA320 at Jeddah on Jan 26th 2015, dropped engine doors

GermanwingsA320 at Cologne on Jan 9th 2015, oil smell in cockpit

GoldenMyanmar A320 at Naypyidaw on Jan 30th 2015, bird strike

BritishAirways A320 at Gibraltar on Jan 30th 2015, engine shut down in flight

VuelingA320 at Genoa on Jan 30th 2015, rejected takeoff due to engine faillure

THYA320 at Istanbul on Jan 27th 2015, bird strike

RyanairB738 and Vueling A320 near Sevilla on Oct 30th 2014, near collision

EasyjetA320 near Amsterdam on Jan 25th 2015, smoke in cockpit

CondorA320 at Tenerife on Dec 11th 2013, descended below minimum safe height

CAAA320 at Kisangani on Jan 8th 2015, bird strike

LingusA320 over Atlantic on Jan 18th 2015, electrical problems

CaribbeanB738 at New York on Jan 17th 2015, runway incursion

EastAir A320 at Kulyab on Feb 2nd 2014, runway excursion on landing

TAMA320 at Londrina on Jan 12th 2015, brakes fire

AerLingus A320 at Malaga on Nov 7th 2013, loss of separation with Piper

CebuPacific A320 at Manila on Jan 9th 2015, bird strike

WestAir A320 near Guangzhou on Jan 8th 2015, suspected bird strike

TigerAustralia A320 at Cairns on Dec 31st 2014, bird strike

ZestA320 at Kalibo on Dec 30th 2014, runway excursion

AustrianA320 at Astana and Vienna on Dec 20th 2014, spoiler problems

UnitedA320 near Spokane on Dec 21st 2014, engine shut down in flight

UralA320 at Nizhniy Novgorod on Dec 15th 2014, engine shut down in flight

AegeanA320 at Chania on Dec 11th 2014, unsafe gear

BritishAirways A320 at London on Jul 22nd 2014, near collision with model helicopter

LufthansaA320 near Venice on Dec 11th 2014, electrical odour on board

EasyjetA320 near London on Aug 28th 2014, smoke in cockpit

S7A319 at Novokuznetsk on Dec 10th 2014, nose gear steering fault
Old 24 March 2015, 03:38 PM
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I'm at a loss with the response by the French authorities. Been watching the live coverage and it's all footage of a lot of people milling about, lots of parked up helicopters and fire crews not actually doing anything. Why are they not flying to the crash site in a military helicopter even just to get initial rescue teams on the ground there? Why have they not got aerial reconnaissance over the site feeding back images? They have confirmed weather conditions are good so I really don't understand what the big delay is in actually getting to the site.

Typical, just updated their news page:

http://news.sky.com/story/1451536/no...ce-plane-crash

The live press conference didn't confirm this either so they were obviously keeping quiet until they knew what they found.

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Old 24 March 2015, 07:10 PM
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I fly on the same make aircraft frequently to prague,last trip February was a bumpy one,plus a couple of bangs coming from underneath the floor,was sat couple seats back from the wing.
Its just not good when things like this do happen it rarely ends with survivors.
Old 24 March 2015, 07:22 PM
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R.I.P to those who lost there lives ..
Old 24 March 2015, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DYK
I fly on the same make aircraft frequently to prague,last trip February was a bumpy one,plus a couple of bangs coming from underneath the floor,was sat couple seats back from the wing.
Its just not good when things like this do happen it rarely ends with survivors.
I fly a fair bit and had a couple of hairy ones recently too, most people on board crapping themselves, I was too busy laughing. non of which come close to landing in Wellington NZ in some 30 seat poxy twin prop jobbie or my flying lesson landing in a Cesna Tomahawk, that WAS ******* scary, cross winded and it really didn't want to go down, never again will I get in a 2 seater match box with an engine.
Old 24 March 2015, 08:40 PM
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Saying "another" Airbus is a bit silly. Considering the aircraft's age and its one of the two major commercial aircraft manufacturers: Statistically, its always going to be one or the other, isn't it?

We get Cessnas round here crashing on a monthly basis in the summer! Nobody reports about those, because they crash all the time.

And I could harp on about the 1000,s of 737s that were flying about with tail rudder prone to jamming...crashes caused by the fault led to them all eventually being retrofitted with modifed parts. Think the stats for the 737-200 was around 500,000 hours per crash: The A320 is over 10million hours per crash!!

And don't start me on McDonnell Douglas.....don't forget Boing 717 is a McDonnell Douglas in drag.

The only dodgy Airbus s the A310 which almost on par with the 727-200 (but the A310 still crashes half as much)!
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went on a monarch a320 in september left palma on take off you could heara noise like a wheel bearing problem anyway approaching manchester we kept banking over the moors took ages then went down to land fire trucks waiting on the runway for us didnt thinkit would stop at the speed it hit the runway ive been on lots off flights and this scared me witless found out that monarch bought loads off planes off a polish airline
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Saying "another" Airbus is a bit silly
I do sincerely apologise for being "a bit silly"

May grasp of the English language is not too good sometimes

I always thought a second occurrence could be classed as "another"

Please forgive me
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Another A320 just landed safely somewhere in the world
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Originally Posted by matt-c
Another A320 just landed safely somewhere in the world
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Originally Posted by matt-c
Another A320 just landed safely somewhere in the world
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I fly a fair bit and had a couple of hairy ones recently too, most people on board crapping themselves, I was too busy laughing. non of which come close to landing in Wellington NZ in some 30 seat poxy twin prop jobbie or my flying lesson landing in a Cesna Tomahawk, that WAS ******* scary, cross winded and it really didn't want to go down, never again will I get in a 2 seater match box with an engine.
**** me how do you get time to sleep, my 5 year old has less story's than you.....and he never shuts the **** up
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Originally Posted by nick172sport
went on a monarch a320 in september left palma on take off you could heara noise like a wheel bearing problem anyway approaching manchester we kept banking over the moors took ages then went down to land fire trucks waiting on the runway for us didnt thinkit would stop at the speed it hit the runway ive been on lots off flights and this scared me witless found out that monarch bought loads off planes off a polish airline
I used to live 2 mins from donny airport, the amount of times planes would just circle around was unreal , eventually found out it was so they could burn the fuel incase the worse happened .....remember that next time the stewardess tells you they are waiting for a space to land!
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mmmm


Took off from Barcelona and crashed near the French town called Barcelonette?

coincidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
mmmm


Took off from Barcelona and crashed near the French town called Barcelonette?

coincidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ahhhh you've done it now, the conspiracy freaks will be on this now
Old 25 March 2015, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by donny andi
**** me how do you get time to sleep, my 5 year old has less story's than you.....and he never shuts the **** up
Amazing isn't it,whatever the subject old elephant bags done it.

Or told you he has anyway
Old 25 March 2015, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by donny andi
Ahhhh you've done it now, the conspiracy freaks will be on this now
look pictures from the scene showing no plane crash




mmmm, Pentagon anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!

wake up sheeple
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Deliberate act is a real possibility, plane flew to cruise ok, no distress signal, no attempt to find a landing strip.

Crashing into the side of a mountain pretty good way to ensure total destruction.
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Originally Posted by matt-c
Deliberate act is a real possibility, plane flew to cruise ok, no distress signal, no attempt to find a landing strip.

Crashing into the side of a mountain pretty good way to ensure total destruction.
indeed - and hopefully the recovery of the FDR will shed some light on it

that fact that it was in a controlled decent suggest someone was at the controls
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Maybe someone couldnt cope with the thought of propping up greece for the next twenty years


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