Labour to double paternity leave and pay.
09 February 2015, 04:38 PM
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Labour to double paternity leave and pay.
Whilst a noble sentiment I can see this causing huge problems for employers. Especially small businesses who can ill afford absenteeism.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31253409
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31253409
09 February 2015, 04:54 PM
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My God,Mom did all the hardwork if IIRC
When we had the twins she was an angel.I didnt desrve any time off (not that I did)
Mothers are amazing,fathers,get back to work and look after your family properly,not dishing up the cornflakes in a morning and skiving all day
When we had the twins she was an angel.I didnt desrve any time off (not that I did)
Mothers are amazing,fathers,get back to work and look after your family properly,not dishing up the cornflakes in a morning and skiving all day
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09 February 2015, 06:44 PM
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This is totally idiotic.
At one extreme we have an era when cricketers (for example) on a foreign tour wouldn't even be in the country for the birth or the following weeks, or fast forward to now where the touch-feely nonsence is so bad that these spineless fathers can't bear to be away from their kids for more than five minutes.
Give them a months paternity leave and couple that with all the sick time they're taking already and just how many small businesses can stomach this?
The only places that can accomodate this are public sector employers or large private companies.
At one extreme we have an era when cricketers (for example) on a foreign tour wouldn't even be in the country for the birth or the following weeks, or fast forward to now where the touch-feely nonsence is so bad that these spineless fathers can't bear to be away from their kids for more than five minutes.
Give them a months paternity leave and couple that with all the sick time they're taking already and just how many small businesses can stomach this?
The only places that can accomodate this are public sector employers or large private companies.
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10 February 2015, 09:22 AM
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Not only would it cause issues for small business l reckon it could (not will) put some employers off hiring the younger man starting a family. (Potentially)
Plus a Labour person came a knocking at mine the other day and gave me a flyer saying they will put the minimum wage upto £8. That may sound great to some but it won't to the same small business that is being told to give their staff more time off.
Plus a Labour person came a knocking at mine the other day and gave me a flyer saying they will put the minimum wage upto £8. That may sound great to some but it won't to the same small business that is being told to give their staff more time off.
10 February 2015, 09:25 AM
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Its one of mans privileges not having to be at home and get covered in milky sick ;-)
Id be bored out of my mind though...
Id be bored out of my mind though...
10 February 2015, 10:01 AM
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Typical Labour b#llux trying to appeal to the mass of sheeple incapable of seeing the bigger picture. Hopefully enough sensible people will see how unworkable it is. Although Labour would probably U turn on it anyway if they got in
10 February 2015, 04:04 PM
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Why? I had my two weeks off, and if I could have had 4 weeks off I would have, even if it was on statutory minimum pay.
Any new arrival causes upheaval, but especially if it's your first you're basically fscked for the first couple of months before you figure out how things are going to work going forward. In my own case, the extra two weeks would have been very welcome.
Any new arrival causes upheaval, but especially if it's your first you're basically fscked for the first couple of months before you figure out how things are going to work going forward. In my own case, the extra two weeks would have been very welcome.
10 February 2015, 05:50 PM
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Why? I had my two weeks off, and if I could have had 4 weeks off I would have, even if it was on statutory minimum pay.
Any new arrival causes upheaval, but especially if it's your first you're basically fscked for the first couple of months before you figure out how things are going to work going forward. In my own case, the extra two weeks would have been very welcome.
Any new arrival causes upheaval, but especially if it's your first you're basically fscked for the first couple of months before you figure out how things are going to work going forward. In my own case, the extra two weeks would have been very welcome.
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10 February 2015, 06:12 PM
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Ludicrous idea paternity leave anyway and yes I am serious.
If you want time off resign or take some holiday. Why should the state and/or employers pay for you to have kids?
Alternatively keep it in your pants or use some contraception
If you want time off resign or take some holiday. Why should the state and/or employers pay for you to have kids?
Alternatively keep it in your pants or use some contraception
11 February 2015, 09:26 PM
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when my eldest was born paternity leave had just been introduced. I had saved 2 weeks holiday and got 2 weeks @ £100 per week paternity. he was in and out of hospital for the first week, then he was in for 10 days in special care unit. at the time we were skint and if I had only had 2 weeks holidays I would have to have gone without pay and we couldn't afford to.
equal rights?
why should blokes have to go straight back to work?
what about all the fuking dole dwellers? at least I pay my taxes and earn a living.
people on the dole shouldn't be able to afford to have kids. but they throw 4 kids out so that they get £30k in handouts
it's about time men that work for a living get something back. wow, it's a month, most working families only have 2 or 3 kids anyway. so out of a mans working life and paying tax he get's 3 months off! big wow.
equal rights?
why should blokes have to go straight back to work?
what about all the fuking dole dwellers? at least I pay my taxes and earn a living.
people on the dole shouldn't be able to afford to have kids. but they throw 4 kids out so that they get £30k in handouts
it's about time men that work for a living get something back. wow, it's a month, most working families only have 2 or 3 kids anyway. so out of a mans working life and paying tax he get's 3 months off! big wow.
11 February 2015, 11:16 PM
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when my eldest was born paternity leave had just been introduced. I had saved 2 weeks holiday and got 2 weeks @ £100 per week paternity. he was in and out of hospital for the first week, then he was in for 10 days in special care unit. at the time we were skint and if I had only had 2 weeks holidays I would have to have gone without pay and we couldn't afford to.
equal rights?
why should blokes have to go straight back to work?
what about all the fuking dole dwellers? at least I pay my taxes and earn a living.
people on the dole shouldn't be able to afford to have kids. but they throw 4 kids out so that they get £30k in handouts
it's about time men that work for a living get something back. wow, it's a month, most working families only have 2 or 3 kids anyway. so out of a mans working life and paying tax he get's 3 months off! big wow.
equal rights?
why should blokes have to go straight back to work?
what about all the fuking dole dwellers? at least I pay my taxes and earn a living.
people on the dole shouldn't be able to afford to have kids. but they throw 4 kids out so that they get £30k in handouts
it's about time men that work for a living get something back. wow, it's a month, most working families only have 2 or 3 kids anyway. so out of a mans working life and paying tax he get's 3 months off! big wow.
11 February 2015, 11:26 PM
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I don't really agree with the child benefits system as it stands either, nor do I have much time for people who expect the government and tax payer to pay their way because they chose to have kids.
11 February 2015, 11:28 PM
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I agree - if you can afford to have kids - you can afford to have the time off unpaid.
I don't really agree with the child benefits system as it stands either, nor do I have much time for people who expect the government and tax payer to pay their way because they chose to have kids.
I don't really agree with the child benefits system as it stands either, nor do I have much time for people who expect the government and tax payer to pay their way because they chose to have kids.
12 February 2015, 09:00 AM
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But don't forget it's in the state's interest for us to have kids and not have an aging population, so it's in our interests to have some pro-child policies.
12 February 2015, 01:01 PM
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I partially agree, though I'm sure there are people in some (unforeseen?) circumstances that mean having the husband/bloke around in the first couple of weeks is essential - I'm thinking serious illness in the new-born.
But don't forget it's in the state's interest for us to have kids and not have an aging population, so it's in our interests to have some pro-child policies.
But don't forget it's in the state's interest for us to have kids and not have an aging population, so it's in our interests to have some pro-child policies.
Without being sexist ;-) a month off to bounce the baby on your knee is what Grandma normally does. ...and I am an adoring father of twins...
If our men of yesteryear could see us now
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