Is The Establishment Riddled With Paedophiles?

Brands youtube Facebook and Twitter following is HUGE . Millions!
This information is now starting to reach, I think a critical mass where there is no way they can hide this stuff anymore.

 

The likes of Russell will be pleased that their campaign got this file made public:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ry-child-abuse

 

Yes good that it has got coverage, although it has been in the public domain for quite a while

It will be interesting to see where this all leads

 

I also like Russell Brand's cat. It looks like my B&W fat cat.

 

Got about 10 seconds in, and switched it off. Really can't stand Russell Brand. Total Wa.nker

 

I used to find Brand quite annoying. I think that's because he's such a fennachennabenna non-stop, hyperactive chatterbox, but I now like him. At least he's entertaining, and he does talk some sense, sometimes.

 

He's a dangerous, dangerous ******. For a start why is he sat there with no top on, for god sake
This sort of youtube, policy making, vote deciding crap has got to stop, it's going to be the end of this country.

YES is the answer, as is all walks of life.

I don't care if he makes the odd good point or not. Before hitting the stop button because I could take no more he was saying he thinks it's fine for people to make up their own mind and not allow for the courts and justice system to have time to make the decision for us. Not in so many words but pretty much (1.30 on vid).

 

I think people should listen to what he says rather than state 'he's a w4nker' and dismiss him as maybe he isn't the person you'd want to spend your spare time with, but what he says can be very well thought out.

I know it doesn't fir with most of SN's Tory establishment supporting status quo loving massive, but for those of us less blinkered he does make some extremely good points!

 

I like him as well. He may be full of hyperbole etc, but he does make some good points that most main stream "pundits" are too scared to say.

 

Agreed, this problem needs to be kept in the spotlight!
Fair play to Brand for doing just that, the more this is talked about is surely only a good thing.
Our MSM are more interested in what paris hilton and Kim Cardigan are getting up too,rather than what our members of parliament are doing behind closed doors.

 

He does make good points but do you think his delivery and his followers are a good thing?

I made the point at 1.30mins in the vid where he says that he doesn't wish to wait for what the police have to say and he thinks he should be able to draw his own conclusions. We obviously can and do come to our own conclusions but to publicly support people not having faith in the system and to make their own mind up based on no to little evidence is IMO dangerous.

I think these youtube style platforms have potential and should someone come along that isn't anti something and is unbiased presenting facts etc then I would be willing to support such a thing, not a well rehearsed scripted rant.

When he was on Q-Time he was unable to answer anything not directly linked to his cards and IMO when asked about grammar schools was not even aware of what thay are.

More specifically for you Chris, he's massively against UKIP and infact hates anything to do with them, surely that would include people giving them support like your good self and I.
Farage discusses his clash with Russell Brand on …:

 

No offence Chris, but I think you are forgetting the reasons I am considering voting UKIP. It's not because I am a massive supporter of them, their people or all their policies.

Firstly I want us out of the EU. Secondly I want us rid of Cameron, Miliband and Clegg more than I don't want a right wing UKIP government if you get my drift. That is why I am considering voting for them!

And of course if there was a true socialist party I would be voting for them all day long!

So that said, and while I am done with the main party politicians, I am still prepared to listen to people outside of politics and if they are massively against UKIP and can explain why then I am happy to listen and take on board what they say just as I will listen to others who have views on what is wrong with the country and how to put it right... it all helps to form an informed opinion.

 

Fair enough Chris.
BUT
He has no rules, no one to answers to on what he says and how he says it.
Put simply, I feel that a gun in the correct hands can save lives, a gun in the wrong hands will take lives, and I believe putting the gun in Brands hands is wrong.
(Made myself laugh a bit putting that )

Its before my time but was politics not better when each party would focus on selling what they had to offer and wouldn't even consider giving the opposition a mention through fear of upping their air time or popularity etc.

Now everyone is just fighting and attacking each other and Brand and suchlike l believe is part of the parties defence policy when it comes to winning votes.
l had a labour candidate come round to mine today and the flyer she gave me had more about the bad the other parties were doing than what Labour wanted. This all then translates into government, and a short sighted, keep the people (Brands) happy approach. They don't have time to get judged by the end results and are more on a week by week basis swapping and changing.

 

You are touching on my pet hate. Party politics has always been in part about telling you how bad 'the other lot' are, but these days it has gone to new extremes. Like you say they almost exclusively turn every argument around to how bad 'the other lot' are and rarely sell anything positive they are trying to do. It's purely about getting elected and electioneering to achieve that these days.

The problem is all the parties moved to the centre and have become about being in power rather than doing what they believe is the right thing for the people of the country. It's a sad situation really, but I think we need the Brands of this world to say what a lot of them won't. I am not going to say he is a genius or should be a politician, but at least he gets people talking and offers a view that whilst not being accountable to anyone is at least hewn from a belief of trying to do the right thing. Whether you agree with it is another matter of course.

 

Ok, why is he dangerous for not having his top on? What danger does that impose upon anyone?

 

You know I'm not suggesting he's dangerous because of him having no top on

 

Ok, but as you said:

......... you can imagine why I thought that he was looking dangerous to you because he had no top on. I thought that in your post, 'for a start' meant evidence number 1; in favour of him being dangerous.

Sorry.

 

I read/watch the "main stream media", - none mention those people

I suggest you are reading/watching the wrong MSM

 

 

It was hypothetical jest, take a chill pill before you lights out tonight,geez talk about straight laced.......

 

I read a review of a new book in the MSM, (the ones I read)

Called "The Internet is not the answer" really interesting, and not a celebrity in site

http://www.theguardian.com/books/201...ew-andrew-keen

 

Sounds a sh1te read, Andrew Keen must have to much time on his hands.
Not my cuppa but hope you enjoy it

 

Good link I've been saying these things for years, not quite as well though.

 

My perspective on this is that governments need to get ahead of the game by using the internet as a tool for a more direct but participative democracy. In other words, something along the lines of a system where any eligible voter could directly influence any government policy by means of online referendums, but only if they could first prove (by means of a corresponding online test) that they've adequately informed themselves of the relevant issues to earn a say.

 

what is interesting is that, depending how it is measured, 5 out of the top 10 world economies would be internet technology companies - so basically private companies - food for thought

especially when people seem so willing to provide these companies with so much personal information/data, using these totally asymmetric EULA