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Old 18 December 2014, 09:31 AM
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On BBC News today.
Old 18 December 2014, 09:39 AM
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Oh those poor oil company's i almost feel sorry for them.
Old 18 December 2014, 11:18 AM
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Lets bail out the profiteering oil companies, give everyone something else to complain about.
Old 18 December 2014, 11:27 AM
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Don't laugh...that could become reality soon enough.
Old 18 December 2014, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Don't laugh...that could become reality soon enough.
Nah the banks will need a fresh set of bail outs soon as those bonuses have to be paid and they have learned nothing from 2008!
Old 18 December 2014, 05:51 PM
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If they pay their staff normal salaries (i.e. in line with other industries) they'll be fine. It's about time there was a bit of a reality check to be honest.
Old 18 December 2014, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rossyboy
If they pay their staff normal salaries (i.e. in line with other industries) they'll be fine. It's about time there was a bit of a reality check to be honest.
Complete bollocks, what other industry involves it's staff living on a steel island and using a helicopter to travel to and from work for two three or even four weeks at a time?
Old 19 December 2014, 06:10 PM
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I should have been a bit clearer, I was talking about onshore based staff in the offices - the ones that do jobs common to all industries. For some reason, they get more money than average.

I don't grudge the offshore guys or the engineers the money.
Old 19 December 2014, 06:42 PM
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Damn straight
I would not even think of doing my job in the oil fields unless it paid a fortune to do it
Which it does lol

Us offshore fellas " North Sea tigers " lol well not North Sea for me anymore as working in Saudi
Have to go through a immense amount of **** on a daily basis while running high profile jobs offshore
While offshore you are sleeping on a tin can which really could kill you
From fires and explosions however unlikely
Also poison gas like h2s which in the right concentration PPM's can kill you stone dead with one or two breaths, h2s gas leaks on rigs abroad have killed everyone on platforms before,
Just to name a few hazards offshore workers face
Not to mention falling out of the sky on dodgy super puma helicopters.

Then there's the isolation of being confined on a small rig for weeks on end
Old 19 December 2014, 07:11 PM
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Not to mention the man-love that must happen....

Old 19 December 2014, 07:56 PM
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I've done six Christmas's on the trot offshore, I bet I've done as many birthdays away as well, the time at home is good but we do miss out on alot as well due to the time away.
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Originally Posted by rossyboy
I should have been a bit clearer, I was talking about onshore based staff in the offices - the ones that do jobs common to all industries. For some reason, they get more money than average.

I don't grudge the offshore guys or the engineers the money.
Onshore staff had a wage cut of 10% around six months ago, word round the camp fire is they are in for another 10% cut after new year, well the ones which work for Woodgroup anyway.
Old 19 December 2014, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
Not to mention the man-love that must happen....

Never heard of any man love offshore, but I have come across quite a few **** suckers though.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
I've done six Christmas's on the trot offshore, I bet I've done as many birthdays away as well, the time at home is good but we do miss out on alot as well due to the time away.
Roughly the same here dunc
I am meant to be flying home on the night of the 23rd so meant to be home for Xmas
Then get sent offshore in Saudi today as nobody else has a Saudi Aramco ID
Then get dumped on a pumping platform and meant to get to a barge
By boat which has not arrived so just hoping I can actually get back on land on the 23 rd so I can fly home but I am a bit sceptical on whether I will get back in time.

Have not been at home for Xmas since my son was born three years ago
Old 19 December 2014, 08:04 PM
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Russia's economy is failing very quickly as they rely on oil and gas to keep them going. With oil at $60 a barrel its killing their economy 17% interest rates at the moment and the rouble has havled its value. if Scotland went down the same route they would be in a world of pain very quickly
Old 19 December 2014, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nizmo80

Have not been at home for Xmas since my son was born three years ago
That must be a nightmare, I'm single and it's still shyte being away for xmas.
Old 19 December 2014, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Russia's economy is failing very quickly as they rely on oil and gas to keep them going. With oil at $60 a barrel its killing their economy 17% interest rates at the moment and the rouble has havled its value. if Scotland went down the same route they would be in a world of pain very quickly
If you can't go to war with Russia then use economics
That's what this oil price drop is about crippling Russia
And why the price of oil has been lowered.

Plus if a yes vote had happened it would not of been is iscotland until 2016
Where oil prices will probably be up in value by then
Also this is not the lowest it's been and we still marched on when that happened
Old 19 December 2014, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
That must be a nightmare, I'm single and it's still shyte being away for xmas.
Yea it is lol
My wife's face booking me all excited and talking about how are sons happy I will be at home for Xmas
I don't even know how to tell her that there is a chance I might not be able to get home in time.

One things for sure I will be kicking off big time with my operations manager
To get me off this job and get changed out.
Old 19 December 2014, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nizmo80
If you can't go to war with Russia then use economics
That's what this oil price drop is about crippling Russia
And why the price of oil has been lowered.

Plus if a yes vote had happened it would not of been is iscotland until 2016
Where oil prices will probably be up in value by then
Also this is not the lowest it's been and we still marched on when that happened




It makes no difference when Scotland would of taken control of the oil its the fact that if a country is solely dependant on oil for revenues its a recipe for disaster.


This won't be the last time we will see oil at a low price and if Russia is struggling with all its oil Scotland would have no chance.
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Originally Posted by stevebt
It makes no difference when Scotland would of taken control of the oil its the fact that if a country is solely dependant on oil for revenues its a recipe for disaster.


This won't be the last time we will see oil at a low price and if Russia is struggling with all its oil Scotland would have no chance.
Salmond did not base is iscotland on oil he said oil was a bonus to the economy
Newspapers and biased broadcasters with their garbage story's painted to image of salmond basing everything on oil.
But hay oh believe what you want
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Old 19 December 2014, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
It makes no difference when Scotland would of taken control of the oil its the fact that if a country is solely dependant on oil for revenues its a recipe for disaster.
But we didn't we wasn't we aren't and we won't!
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Besides it's easy to say you scots would of been screwed if independent with oil prices

You really need to look at the state Westminster has left the country in
With a 1.6 trillion deficit but the scots and oil prices is a nice little distraction
From the fact that the uk is already screwed !
Old 19 December 2014, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nizmo80
Damn straight
I would not even think of doing my job in the oil fields unless it paid a fortune to do it
Which it does lol

Us offshore fellas " North Sea tigers " lol well not North Sea for me anymore as working in Saudi
Have to go through a immense amount of **** on a daily basis while running high profile jobs offshore
While offshore you are sleeping on a tin can which really could kill you
From fires and explosions however unlikely
Also poison gas like h2s which in the right concentration PPM's can kill you stone dead with one or two breaths, h2s gas leaks on rigs abroad have killed everyone on platforms before,
Just to name a few hazards offshore workers face
Not to mention falling out of the sky on dodgy super puma helicopters.

Then there's the isolation of being confined on a small rig for weeks on end
Yeah but if an Asteroid the size of Mt Everest comes towards Earth, Rough Necking could see you going to Space to play with Nukes. Just saying.
Old 19 December 2014, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nizmo80
Besides it's easy to say you scots would of been screwed if independent with oil prices

You really need to look at the state Westminster has left the country in
With a 1.6 trillion deficit but the scots and oil prices is a nice little distraction
From the fact that the uk is already screwed !




FFS I even put a smiley face on


If Russia can't sustain an econmony its just obvious Salmond would of fecked up Scotland, its just basic maths. No matter how much you dabble in looking for oil if the price drops so does the economy.
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Originally Posted by daveyj
Yeah but if an Asteroid the size of Mt Everest comes towards Earth, Rough Necking could see you going to Space to play with Nukes. Just saying.
I would defo be the guy tied up for going crazy and cowboying the nuke in space if it did happen lol
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Originally Posted by stevebt
FFS I even put a smiley face on


If Russia can't sustain an econmony its just obvious Salmond would of fecked up Scotland, its just basic maths. No matter how much you dabble in looking for oil if the price drops so does the economy.
FFS just noticed I got one of these as well

The point I am making is Steve is we didn't need salmond to screw the economy
As Westminster has already dragged the uk into £1.6 trillion worth of debt and it's growing massively every day.

We are already screwed regardless if we had independence or not
Or high oil prices or low oil prices

We are all totally shafted !

Put one of these here so you don't think I am being grumpy
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Originally Posted by nizmo80
The point I am making is Steve is we didn't need salmond to screw the economy
As Westminster has already dragged the uk into £1.6 trillion worth of debt and it's growing massively every day.

We are already screwed regardless if we had independence or not
Or high oil prices or low oil prices

We are all totally shafted !
It is truly amazing how many on here who claim to be intelligent don't get this!
Old 20 December 2014, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Onshore staff had a wage cut of 10% around six months ago, word round the camp fire is they are in for another 10% cut after new year, well the ones which work for Woodgroup anyway.
Is it wise to have a camp fire on an oil rig?
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Is it wise to have a camp fire on an oil rig?
If you like your sausages extra well done it could be!


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