dpb

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/steerpi...n-for-ukip-mp/

They seem attract all the less savoury types.....

This pair appear to have their hands in the till, again.

alcazar

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Yawn..........

And there is NO sleaze attached to any of the other parties, no lies, no money gone missing, no MP's having to stand down, none gone to prison?

Just because these two have surfaced again, UKIP are the "Party of Sleaze"?

Nope...but the other three are ****-scared of them, that's for sure.

dpb

One things for sure, the party attracts every chancer going

neil-h

Sounds suspiciously like you've missed the point. There are a vast number of people who've put UKIP on to a pedestal as the every mans party who can do no wrong...

f1_fan

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Whereas the others attract bona fide lying, cheating, self serving, gravy train riding career politicians that I would not p1ss on if they were on fire. HTH

That said why UKIP let the Hamiltons join them is beyond me!

warrenm2

They're not my favourite UKIP members to be fair....

RA Dunk

At least they haven't invaded any other countries or started any wars yet.

Shaid

I wish UKIPers would furnish me with the details of what to expect when they come in power. Not IF but WHEN.

How will they deal with the 'muslim' problem? Which country will we be kicked out to? Will there be a choice? Can i go somewhere that is diabetes friendly? How about our assets? After the Muslims are the blacks next?

I need to start thinking long term however with the uncertainty hanging over our heads i cannot make any firm decisions as to what i should do.

Blue by You

iTrader: (23)

Aren't these very qualities the essential pre-requisites of political aspiration? How would we recognise our leaders and betters if not for such stand out characteristics?

neil-h

Not UKIP, they're all honest upstanding members of the community don't you know.

Maz

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Yes indeed, fine examples of morally righteous people. Definitely not homophobic, sexist or racist.

dpb

I do actually think ukip have some way to go before realising sleeze levels of the late thatcher government.

alcazar

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I don't think UKIP will take power in the UK, not in my (now quite short) lifetime.

But we MAY see them in coalition, and THEN we might see some fireworks.

Look North ran a big thing about immigration in our region last night.
Politicians and SOME employers thought it great.
Everyone else thought it NOT so great, with some positives and many, mostly hidden by officials, negatives.

One thing's for sure: something needs doing and our present lying, self-serving, cheating politicians aren't going to do it...BECAUSE THEY AREN'T NEGATIVELY AFFECTED!!!

f1_fan

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OK, do I gather both of you think we are better off with the Tories or Labour rather than UKIP?

neil-h

If it helps you sleep at night.

You'd be more accurate if you were to gather that i think we'd be better off with real electoral reform rather than pratting about making daft protest votes under the current system.

Jay Cartay

iTrader: (3)

Unfortunately, a lot of the Kippers will still think the party can do no wrong and will just sweep this under the carpet.

I'm afraid "well everybody else is doing it" isn't really a defence....

Maz

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UKIP are good anti-dote to the mainstream parties but I'm not sure they'd make a viable cabinet. That's not to say I'm a supporter of the other parties.

Dingdongler

That Roger Bird episode seems a bit dodgy. It looks like Natasha Bolter is a liar and is trying to stitch him up (according to todays papers)

fat-thomas

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who knows, but the reason they are attracting a lot of votes is the uk doesnt want to be either muslim or over run by immigrants.

im sure if both left the u.k. nobody would mind too much

warrenm2

Exactly, although its been used already in feminazi piece in the Telegraph today bashing UKIP. Its full steam ahead by the established media and politics to preserve the status quo.....

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

But this is what gets me. You say we'd be better off with real electoral reform, but by keeping on returning the Tories or Labour into power you will NEVER get that!

I would also take issue with 'making daft protest votes'. I despise Cameron and Miliband to the point where even as a socialist I think we'd be better off with UKIP than with either of those two utter c0ckends and their parties full of self servers! With nothing else to vote for it's either UKIP or not voting again!

The only slight inkling I have towards getting the Tories back into power is I would like to see Osborne snivelling when the truth of his lies comes back to bite him on the *** and all the idiots in here who think the UK is on some magic carpet ride to success get to see what an utter liar the man is!

Matteeboy

Politics is broken.
The trick is to try and make a life for yourself that is influenced by it as little as possible. Avoid loans and mortgages (controlled by them), don't get ill, don't smoke, don't drink too much.

alcazar

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And don't get old........ it's miserable.

Mouser

Ain't that the truth.


And wear a tinfoil hat or they'll steal your thoughts.

Matteeboy

40 in June. Doomed...

Blue by You

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Don't regret getting old, it's a privilege not afforded to everyone

Maz

iTrader: (34)

Amen.

jonc

Well if you're so sure that snivelling Osborne's lies will come back to bite him on the **** and you want to get back at all the idiots who think the UK is sweet and dandy and prove them wrong, vote Tory then.

fat-thomas

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30439913

another vote winner for ukip

Martin2005

Because?