The Trooper 1815

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28368567

So they claim less and will look for work.

from me.

dpb

Thought the programme during the week with what's his face off of the apprentice quite revealing ( to some )

Immigrants are categorically more liable to be working / less likely to be claiming. - than your average indigenous

PaulC72

thats great, however it then also means we have plenty of people who won't work thus claiming more and unable to get jobs so where on one hand it's good on the other it has a negative.

alcazar

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BBC......what did we expect them to say, I mean REALLY?

Immigration is fine, everyone says so...until YOU or YOUR FAMILY are affected negatively.

Then watch out.

stipete75

Exactly.
Immigration can only have a negative impact on family's in communities trying to sustain a healthy living.

JTaylor

Some immigration is good, some is bad.

Turbohot

It's like anything, really.

The Trooper 1815

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But if those on benefits had a bit of pride, self discipline and took jobs there would not be any jobs for immigrants.

madscoob

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there is also the question of affordability, a lot of the time the claimer can't afford to take the job, because the system is to generous, i know someone who took a job taxi driving worked all hours and ended up £16 a week worse off. i myself am only £72 a month better off working

stipete75

It's not all about the jobs, it's the welfare system the immigrants also put a strain on.

RobJenks

Selective immigration would benefit the country best - That is what Australia chooses .
Britain appears to have no policy - Its a rotating door .
Uneducated and poor in and the relatively wealthy and educated migrate.

dpb

We're All part of Europe now!

The Trooper 1815

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Read the government document or the link in the OP, it says immigrants are unlikely to claim. There are 2.2 million Brits living in Europe and 2.3 immigrants here, hardly an invasion.

It's funny how the immigrants can survive on the wages and send money home. Perhaps "6 kid Sid/Sally" should take some advice.

madscoob

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they can survive very nicely, when there is 5-6 of them shairing a house and all the bills, a local factory down here aranges accomidation £50 per week all bills included except food, a person with children and a council/social housing platform, cannot afford to do these min wage job's. that's the problem, now add in the fact that if they have children they are able to claim child benefit for children living back home, there is every chance they will be getting more in benefit than they pay in uk tax, so the only person to gain is the company giving them a job, all the rest of us have to subsidise them for doctors etc so in my eyes they are no better than our own passengers

stipete75

They come over here, claim all the benefits on offer including child benefit for their own children who do not even live on these shores, they claim all they can for a few years then **** off back to where they came from with £40k +.
It's too easy for them, the majority abuse our benefit system,our jobs,our housing and our NHS.

dpb

Yeah, well claiming for circumstances back home is ludicrous

Everything is else is part and parcel of Europe membership

tony de wonderful

So if only they were as great as you basically?

hodgy0_2

Enough uneducated ill-informed rambling - have you read the report, or the report on the report

Henrik

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I'm an EU immigrant with one kid. We don't get a single penny in benefits, not even child benefit (let alone tax credits). We have never claimed any benefit of any kind in the UK, and I've been here for 14 years now.

Could you please let me know where I can claim the 40k, as I quite fancy another scooby?

dpb

This must be the roma filmed on channel 5


If it is actually true, yo can semi see how we got here

They are not even accepted in their homeland

stipete75

Don't need to read ill-informed and biased reports, Iv seen and heard all about it first hand.

stipete75

If you read my post correctly I said the "majority" not all.

stipete75

I saw that!
Blatant abusing of our system for their own selfish needs.

hodgy0_2

Great, I've seen a juggling monkey, first hand

kingofturds

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That's because our national minimum wage is 4 or 5 times higher than what most Eastern European can earn back in their own Country. If you offered our so called lazy sods the chance to earn that sort of money in a different Country, I'm sure a lot of them would do the same.
The problem is that jobs that were £8.50 p/h back in 2005, are now £6.31 p/h because employers know full well that people will fill them.

stipete75

Bet that was great, fairplay

The Trooper 1815

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Been fully employed all my life, so yes.

DYK

Well I know from being in czech and having apartment,places like prague have seen prices increase because of the EU,groceries have become more expensive,and rental on apartments has increased to about 2%/5%.
A decent apartment in prague nothing flash,maybe starting from around 10000 koruna per month+1500 utilities say total £320.00 some charge extra for wifi which isn't much.
Now they are saying in czech the average wage is 25000 koruna per month,£720.00.more in prague something like 30000 koruna £865.00.This is the reason why some who live in these countries share apartments to split the cost,maybe have three sharing,and so they do the same when come to the UK and work.

Chip

Some of us do have higher standards than others I guess

An0n0m0us

And this is the issue. So take into account the fact those on benefits aren't having to go to work for that money so their time is free to do what they want with just think how much some of them get who do cash in hand jobs to top up their benefits.

Take your example you'd be worse off by less than £17 a week. So for those unscrupulous ones happy to do cash in hand jobs and not be bothered by benefit fraud they could by doing 1 day a week labouring or any other cash in hand job easily make that up and more and have the rest of the week off to do as they wanted but still earn more than what you do now from going out to work 5 days a week.

Not right is it? Even without the cash in hand jobs and losing the £17 a week it's tempting to have an easy life not working and doing what you want.

As you say, the system is way too generous to create this situation.