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Old 28 March 2010, 03:46 PM
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Not very happy, I bought this in anticipation of a new lease of power, and as you can see the old one is off ready for the new to go in and it is not even a close fit

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I can make it work, but it will involve me cutting the third decat pipe that I was hoping to sell to put some cash towards then next round of mods.

I've PM'd the guy, just waiting for an answer - but I need to do it today otherwise it'll not happen

As you can imagine, I'm a little bit annoyed - the car is getting mapped in 3 days and I don't have any way of getting this sports cat fitted as it is the wrong size and shape for my car. At the very least I expect a full refund as you have misrepresented this in the sale, if you wish to argue I will also ask that you refund what it has cost me to re-wrap it and also for the adaptor and clamps too. Contact me and and let me know when you intend to refund my cash and collect this as it is no use to man nor beast.

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Old 28 March 2010, 04:53 PM
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Bloody hell mate WTF hope you get sorted PDQ for remap
Old 28 March 2010, 04:59 PM
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Constructed from 3" T306 stainless steel direct from the turbo for maximum flow, the downpipe bolts directly on to our O.E cat back system, or can be purchased with a sleeve fitting designed for use with the Revolution system
You needed the rest of the system by the looks Jon
Old 28 March 2010, 05:07 PM
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I have decided that I can't be @rsed waiting, I need to cut my blitz, and get a flexi joint welded in in the near future, but I can make it fit. It is designed to mate to a sleeve jointed system, which Subaru never made and certainly quality aftermarket exhausts are flange jointed not sleeved jointed in my experience. Without the flexi, and the donut joint gone, there is no play left in the system (except where I will fit the sleeve joint for now). With the amount of cutting and sawing I've done in the last few days I'll have a right arm like a long term prisoner
Old 28 March 2010, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JonMc
I have decided that I can't be @rsed waiting, I need to cut my blitz, and get a flexi joint welded in in the near future, but I can make it fit. It is designed to mate to a sleeve jointed system, which Subaru never made and certainly quality aftermarket exhausts are flange jointed not sleeved jointed in my experience. Without the flexi, and the donut joint gone, there is no play left in the system (except where I will fit the sleeve joint for now). With the amount of cutting and sawing I've done in the last few days I'll have a right arm like a long term prisoner

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hmmm not good jon hope you get it sorted mate
Old 28 March 2010, 08:59 PM
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I'm far from happy with the fit, it needs a pipe bender on it and a flexi-joint - the blitz (which mated happily with the factory system) and the 'Revolution' sport cat both point in different directions. Hopefully this will see me through the mapping and I can sort out a permanent fix in slower time




Strangely enough there's been no contact, but he was online this afternoon
Old 29 March 2010, 10:09 AM
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**** me mate.... that don't look good. Hope you get it sorted in the long run

Did a mapping session with Rich last night..... **** me that was fun....
Old 29 March 2010, 11:13 AM
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I'm gonna give him a bell in about 10 minutes (when I cool down). It needs to be cut and a flange joint welded in to correct the angle. Before the bigger turbo comes it will also need a bellmouth welding on
Old 29 March 2010, 01:36 PM
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Id just get a new, correct fitting one instead
Old 29 March 2010, 01:44 PM
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By time I get a new sport cat and centre pipe it will cost £300+. The flanges I've just got for £16, flexi joint £20 and someone to weld it together - depends whether Rich wants the work, it's not a difficult job in all honesty. When I get the bigger turbo, I may do that and sell this lot as a job lot - at least then I can be confident that what I am selling will fit.
Old 29 March 2010, 04:24 PM
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I can get that welded for you Jon. Give me a shout if it needs doing and Rich isn't available.
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Will do Jim, I'm just getting the bits togther, flanges are on the way. The welder will probably want to see it in-situ so he knows the effect he's after so it may be after the remap (assuming it doesn't fall off).
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When you getting mapped? If you do all the cutting and prep I can just bring the welder over, tack it and then take it off to be finished. Depends on the time frame...
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The mapping will all depend upon Rich's time which is limited at the moment, and whether or not I can sort the headers myself after Rich ports them. Potentially could be one evening this week, but looking more likely to be next week. Now I've found my electric saw, cut won't be problem - I just need to find more things to cut and vandalise

Once the flanges and flexi joint arrive I'll take it from there and let you know
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After taking it all off again today to remove the headers, I've decided to go for a full decat and will be ordering a new 3" decat and centre pipe tomorrow - lots of pops and bangs

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I've got a TD05-16g that you could bolt on, whilst you've got the TD04 off anyway
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Originally Posted by fiestaboy
I've got a TD05-16g that you could bolt on, whilst you've got the TD04 off anyway
It already back on, with the up-pipe.

Anyway, by time I sort this lot out I couldn't afford a new turbo just yet
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Originally Posted by fiestaboy
I've got a TD05-16g that you could bolt on, whilst you've got the TD04 off anyway
Ooh!
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Out of curiosity, how much
Old 01 April 2010, 09:29 AM
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£80 - you'll need to get a Front Entry compressor cover for it.
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But I'll still be limited by my injectors though

Let's see what I have left after I sort the exhaust out, after all it's not a huge job to swap the turbo again
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It may well fit a jdm twin scroll car but as its a 2.5ltr engine cat it wont fit normal 2ltr cars due to the sump
Bit of bad advertising by the advertiser and you should be able to get your money back off him for that

Tony
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I'd be interested to know what some more "go" would cost me too Rich. Will chat at the tunnel run if we can catch you
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
It may well fit a jdm twin scroll car but as its a 2.5ltr engine cat it wont fit normal 2ltr cars due to the sump
Bit of bad advertising by the advertiser and you should be able to get your money back off him for that

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The flange is right for the single scroll, it just doesn't line up with anything else under the car, even when I have cut it and my blitz centre the 2 meet at an angle so short of welding in flanges at an angle they won't come together.

At least when I come to resell it (with some decent wrap on) I can make the buyer aware. At the moment he is ignoring me, I've PM'd him and put a comment on the ad, he's been online, but not responded
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Jon - I've got a set of pink injectors too

Shiver - I'll see you on Sunday
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Originally Posted by JonMc
The flange is right for the single scroll, it just doesn't line up with anything else under the car, even when I have cut it and my blitz centre the 2 meet at an angle so short of welding in flanges at an angle they won't come together.

At least when I come to resell it (with some decent wrap on) I can make the buyer aware. At the moment he is ignoring me, I've PM'd him and put a comment on the ad, he's been online, but not responded
It looks very odd Jon tbh. I have the H&S Sports cat and decat second pipe which I was running on my 53WRX, direct fit and line up on my 06SpecD 2.5 UK STi. No sump issues Prodrive sports cats tend to not fit apparently do to the mounting brackets, but nothing a little cutting can't sort. I can only think it built to only be used in conjunction with the rest of the Rev system like the custom TSL one.

Go TD05 and bigger injectors if you can, you surely deserve it after such exhausting diappointment

Rich I'll send that PM over the weekend of what I need doing, no rush to reply not looking to come over till end April
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Originally Posted by fiestaboy
Jon - I've got a set of pink injectors too

Shiver - I'll see you on Sunday
Rich, you are evil - do you do credit
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BTW Rich, you haven't mentioned the tumbler delete kit you have yet

And if I do all this now, where do I go next - it's not worth upgrading from a 16G to and 18G for 25bhp, and don't say stroker
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16g won't eat your box quite so readily and will be less laggy for the new FMIC. Also you could run a DV delete as 16g's are relatively cheap if you believe the turbo destructionists regarding DV deletes.


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