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Old 10 May 2010, 07:09 PM
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Decided that if I can't have performance, I'd have style instead.

It's been nothing but hassle so far, and I can't see it getting any easier TBH, but I just have to look at it to realise why I did it







4* of camber at the moment, going to lost some though as the top of the wheel sits too far into the arch I think.

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Old 10 May 2010, 07:23 PM
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So you sold the subaru and bought.....?

Just kidding looks great - love the deleted spoiler, those rims are huge!
Old 10 May 2010, 07:46 PM
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looks cool, bet it drives like a pig
Old 10 May 2010, 07:56 PM
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...not for me unfortunately... But everyone has different taste so enjoy...

Old 10 May 2010, 08:03 PM
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thats lower than sucking off your own sister

Old 10 May 2010, 08:10 PM
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Nice wheels.
I'd be suprised if you get pulled by the feds though as it looks like they stick out past the wheel arch...
Old 10 May 2010, 08:32 PM
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Cheers guys

Originally Posted by RMII
So you sold the subaru and bought.....?

Just kidding looks great - love the deleted spoiler, those rims are huge!
They're only 18", fronts are 8.5j and rear are 9.5j though.

Originally Posted by RMII
sc00bylee]looks cool, bet it drives like a pig
Apart from having the dampers on the hardest setting and a little scrubbing when cornering hard, it handles great and sticks like glue with it being low and wide ;]

Originally Posted by mantazini
...not for me unfortunately... But everyone has different taste so enjoy...

Exactly, it'd be a bit boring pointless if we all liked the same thing. And I will enjoy it :]

Originally Posted by DaOne
thats lower than sucking off your own sister

Whoooa, not quite that low, yet...

Originally Posted by Davey L
Nice wheels.
I'd be suprised if you get pulled by the feds though as it looks like they stick out past the wheel arch...
I'd be quite surprised too if the Feds came all the way across the Atlantic just to pull me over The rims do stick out, but the tread of the tyre is still covered by the arch and flaps.
Old 10 May 2010, 08:38 PM
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i like it!!! awesome to look at but couldn't run it personally
Old 10 May 2010, 09:17 PM
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if they are stiff flaps be careful you might rip em off,
a guy on here did it but his were fixed on that well to the wing it ripped his wing off,
i remember his post when i fitted mine and ripped one of my front ones off when reversing luckily mine werent fixed on as good, i cut mine then refiited them - no more horrible dragging noise when pulling onto my drive

ps how come youve only cambered the back, dont you get more understeer like that

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Old 10 May 2010, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by beef-on-the-bone
i like it!!! awesome to look at but couldn't run it personally
Cheers. I just have to adapt my driving style, no more driving it like I stole it. Drove it home this evening nice and slow and steady, and actually felt quite relaxed. Could well get used to it

Originally Posted by stedee
if they are stiff flaps be careful you might rip em off,
a guy on here did it but his were fixed on that well to the wing it ripped his wing off,
i remember his post when i fitted mine and ripped one of my front ones off when reversing luckily mine werent fixed on as good, i cut mine then refiited them - no more horrible dragging noise when pulling onto my drive

ps how come youve only cambered the back, dont you get more understeer like that
They are fairly stiff yeah, only held on with a couple of self-tappers though. I nearly ripped one of the rear ones off a few months ago when I reversed into a kerb, I've learnt not to since then...

They were kind of my gauge for lowering too, I just wanted it lowering enough to get them dragging ;]

Camber, erm, rears are only cambered to get them under the arches, fronts are cambered as far as the OEM camber bolts can, might have a fiddle with the coilovers' camber adjustable mounts later.

I maxed the front camber when I first fitted the wheels, before I fitted the coils and camber bolts in the rear, and it dramatically reduced the understeer I used to get, but as above, I don't drive it hard enough anymore to get understeer, so I don't notice anything.
Old 10 May 2010, 10:09 PM
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ridiculous
Old 10 May 2010, 10:27 PM
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Uh oh, who let Bioforger the pursit bck out of his Box...... Quickly someone give him something to photoshop to cheer him up!!

Cars looking cool mate...... Ber very careful reversing, sooner or later those flaps are gonna end up under the wheel and they are gonna get ripped clean off!!!
Old 10 May 2010, 10:36 PM
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It's always been my opinion as u well know, so eat me stealth
Old 10 May 2010, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bioforger
It's always been my opinion as u well know, so eat me stealth
LOL I know it's always been you opinion, but it won't stop me taking the ****.... as for eating you...... you don't have enough money for "THIS" LMFAO!!!
Old 10 May 2010, 10:53 PM
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Bioforger, you're exactly the reason people like me, Bockett, Budgie, inthoughtwelive etc do things like this, so I thank you ;]

And yes Stealth already managed to mangled one bracket months ago, and realistically I'll be even more cautious around kerbs than before now it's lowered.
Old 10 May 2010, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
LOL I know it's always been you opinion, but it won't stop me taking the ****.... as for eating you...... you don't have enough money for "THIS" LMFAO!!!
sry I can't see ****, I'll fetch my magnifying glass You may charge a high rate but your Mum wasn't too fussy
Old 11 May 2010, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bioforger
sry I can't see ****, I'll fetch my magnifying glass You may charge a high rate but your Mum wasn't too fussy
nah my mums all up for charity work micro man....... she's got a soft heart that one and will do anything out of pitty LOL
Old 11 May 2010, 09:56 AM
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looks good, but lose the m3 mirrors and the arches look a bit rough. how are your morettes?? i got HIDs on my morettes, but having a few problems

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Old 11 May 2010, 11:05 AM
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Love the stance but thought running staggered width setup on 4wd would lunch the diff and or gearbox?

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Old 11 May 2010, 01:13 PM
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Bockett, Budgie, inthoughtwelive's cars are really nice. Just something about yours that doesnt look right, its probably the flaps but then its your car so as long as your chuffed it doesnt matter if it looks terrible
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Originally Posted by wiley
looks good, but lose the m3 mirrors and the arches look a bit rough. how are your morettes?? i got HIDs on my morettes, but having a few problems

wiley
Nah, mirrors are staying for now, they were too much hassle to fit ;] I need to get HIDs too, the current ones are absolutely useless, especially now I've lowered it.

Originally Posted by mneame
Love the stance but thought running staggered width setup on 4wd would lunch the diff and or gearbox?
Width is only about 0.5-1 inch difference front to rear, and I matched the rolling circumference of front and rear with the tyre sizes, so there's little to no difference there either.
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Originally Posted by Rossco_
Bockett, Budgie, inthoughtwelive's cars are really nice. Just something about yours that doesnt look right, its probably the flaps but then its your car so as long as your chuffed it doesnt matter if it looks terrible
beat me to it...there's just something not quite right
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Originally Posted by Pyrotechnic
Bioforger, you're exactly the reason people like me, Bockett, Budgie, inthoughtwelive, Wiley etc do things like this, so I thank you ;]

And yes Stealth already managed to mangled one bracket months ago, and realistically I'll be even more cautious around kerbs than before now it's lowered.

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looks different id loose the flaps though imo and get a proper stretch on
Old 11 May 2010, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Budgie
efa
Oops, sorry Wiley!

Originally Posted by M444GY
looks different id loose the flaps though imo and get a proper stretch on
But I wouldn't be a flap-dragger if I removed them

I'd love more stretch on the front, but because the rears are 9.5j, the front are 8.5j and I had to keep the rolling circumference of the 2 as close as possible so as not to ruin the centre diff, that's what I ended up with. That was the cost effective way anyway, I could better match the stretch but the tyre size I'd need on the front are about £140 each ;]
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Sitting that low your own beef flaps will be dragging on the feckin ground nevermind the cars.
Old 12 May 2010, 03:20 PM
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Have the tyres been stretched? If so how legal/safe is it?

The rear camber does look like the car has had a crash

Like the draging flaps though
Old 12 May 2010, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Champion
Have the tyres been stretched? If so how legal/safe is it?

The rear camber does look like the car has had a crash

Like the draging flaps though
Tyres are stretched, rears more than the back (CBA to explain why again). No idea on legality, nothing says you can't as far as I know. As for safety, if drifters can corner sideways on them at 70+mph I'm sure I'm quite alright trundling round town at 30 odd ;]

Rear camber is a bit OTT I will admit, I didn't realise it was that bad til we'd finished messing around and got it off the lift, and by then I couldn't be bothered sorting it out. I do quite like it though because it's so OTT. I'll see how fast it eats tyres and review it then...

Knew someone else must like the flaps
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I feel as though I have seen this car in Birmingham when it had a wing but similar alloys??
Old 12 May 2010, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo69
I feel as though I have seen this car in Birmingham when it had a wing but similar alloys??
Errrrrm, I am in the West Mids, and I *think* there were a few days when I had the wheels on and still had the wing, so yeah, could well have seen it. Used to look like this:

(And no, this isn't a cue for you all to say it looked better like this (look at that arch gap! :O))


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