Originally Posted by Luminous

Just a thought people. You can buy a pocket GPS system from GPSworld for around £300. Something along the lines of the Mitac Mio is a good system, and you can get a speed camera database that can be loaded into this.

It is not meant to be as good as the Road Angel, but the SatNav element is very good, and it is totally discreet in terms of the speed trap detection

Originally Posted by Luminous

I hadn't realised that the postcode addin has been taken down. That was one of the best things about it. Who wants SatNav without a full postcode search facility!! I cannot believe that someone has not been able to release one properly!

Originally Posted by davedipster

All these will be illegal in September, you will need a firmware update to disable the laser alert. Better off with a classic road angel our cyclops.

Dipster

Originally Posted by M0NEY

Apparently the Road Angel 2 wont be illegal from September as its based on downloading camera sites based on GPS and apparently this is different?!

Originally Posted by M0NEY

Stu the more people you get, the bigger discount you will get.

Evo guys had 32 people with Road Angel 2 on the group buy and blackspot supplied at £288inc vat and delivery

Originally Posted by eclipse

Thanks got mine

Road Angel Legality Confirmed Update ..


The well publicised “Road Safety Bill” has been dropped for 2005, as parliament has now been dissolved for the general election, leaving all unread bills rejected. This bill was dropped on the 11th April 2005 as shown on the following site; http://www.politics.co.uk/legislationitempage.aspx?menuindex=430010609&itemi d=7197862

With a possible change of government in the general election, the bill may or may not re-surface in 2006 when Parliament reconvenes and again may or may not be heard or progressed even if it does. Even if the bill is progressed in 2006, the process then starts to debate publicly and privately what technologies they intend to ban, with that process expected to take a further 12 months. If agreed, it would then take a further 6 months to become law, so the Department for Transport would not implement any such changes until late 2007, if at all.

If in the future, passive laser detection was banned, which some models of Road Angel includes, All Road Angel products remain 100% legal, but may require minor adjustments. Classic Road Angel would require the laser alert to be disconnected from the unit, making the Road Angel 100% legal. On the New Road Angel, the laser alert is integrated, but can be disabled on the unit by the owner, a firmware upgrade can be sent via e-mail to remove that functionality, again making the unit 100% legal.

GPS Camera locators like Road Angel were not under review in the 2005 bill and this was confirmed in writing from the Department for Transport. The government fully understands and accepts the safety benefits of GPS based safety alert systems, as documented in the dropped Road Safety Bill. Products like Road Angel warns of areas of danger advising user to reduce speed and be aware of potential danger, which supports perfectly what safety camera aim to achieve.

Road Angel Legality Confirmed ..
This is a question we are being asked a lot at the moment by our customers, driven mainly by press surrounding the proposed “Road Safety Bill” for Parliament.

The reality is that the bill may not get heard in the short term due to higher priorities amongst the 100 or so bills proposed for hearing this Spring. The current parliamentary activity which has been poorly documented in the press, is the first phase to decide if the bill will be progressed. If the bill is progressed, the process then starts to debate publicly and privately what they will and won’t ban, expected to take around 12 months. If that is agreed, it takes 6 months to become law, so the Department for Transport have confirmed in writing that the earliest any change could take effect is the second half of 2006, if at all.

The primary focus is to ban Laser Jammers, as these units prevent the police getting a speed on your vehicle. This is not part of the Road Angel product. They also intend to ban Radar detectors, which are again very different to the Road Angel product. Radar detectors are proposed for banning as they can determine which cameras are live and which are not, effectively allowing the user to speed through inactive cameras, working against the reason for having the camera installed at that location, “Reducing Speed”. In this scenario, Road Angel will remain unchanged and fully legal in it’s current format as it does not include either of these functions.

Secondly, but less likely, they could ban the use of passive laser detection, which the Road Angel does have, but without going into too much detail, this maybe very complicated to ban. If the bill does ban laser detection, Classic Road Angel (The black unit) will require the laser alert golf ball to be disconnected from the unit, making the Road Angel 100% legal. On the New Road Angel, the laser alert is integrated, but can be disabled on the unit by the owner, without intervention from ourselves. If the customer wants a more permanent fix, we can send a firmware upgrade via e-mail to remove that functionality, again making the unit 100% legal.

GPS Camera locators are not under review in the proposed bill and we have written evidence from the Department for Transport to that effect. The Government understand and fully accept the safety benefits of GPS based safety systems. Products like Road Angel warn of danger areas, advising users to reduce speed and be aware of the potential hazard ahead, supporting perfectly what safety cameras aim to achieve.